Vatican City 2013 papal election

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Well, until the white smoke arrives, all is guessing... this might take a while.

Until the bells ring, all is guessing.  There have been enough problems with the smoke in the past, that while it is a nice tradition, no one should depend on the smoke color as a clear signal.  s I recall, last time the quality of the smoke was such that if they had gone 50 votes, Fifty Shades of Grey could have been the title of a book about the conclave.  They ought to consider using colored smoke.  Keep the white to signal a new pope, but use red to signal they are all still cardinals.

[Silent Hunter]

First lot of smoke and it's definitely black.

[Paleobrazilian]

If they keep the smoke as black as it was today, there'll be no confusion this time out when the white smoke comes out.

[Tender Branson]

A few women held a demo with pink smoke to protest this arch-conservative all-men meeting:

[Antonio the Sixth]

What terrorists is the Church accused of funding? The mafia I could totally believe but terrorists sounds like stupid conspiracy theory crap that can be totally discounted.

Wouldn't it be hilarious if it turned out to be Al Quaeda or some other Islamic stuff?

More seriously, I wouldn't be too surprised if they had some links with the Strategia della tensione terrorism in 1960s Italy.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

More seriously, I wouldn't be too surprised if they had some links with the Strategia della tensione terrorism in 1960s Italy.

Who didn't?

[SPQR]

A friend of mine who has very good connections with the Vatican told me to bet strongly on Scola.

I hope he's wrong.
Scola is close to PdL,and even went as far as saying that Renato Farina (PdL senator,who was suspended as a journalist after working for the Italian Secret Service as a spy) is "an absolutely great journalist".

[Antonio the Sixth]

A friend of mine who has very good connections with the Vatican told me to bet strongly on Scola.

I hope he's wrong.
Scola is close to PdL,and even went as far as saying that Renato Farina (PdL senator,who was suspended as a journalist after working for the Italian Secret Service as a spy) is "an absolutely great journalist".

Oh dear...

Now the choice is obvious: Scherer all the way. Ideally I think I would support Shönborn, but he seems to have no chance.

[DKrol]

I'd cast my first ballot for Angelo Scola. If he didn't get the majority or a solid showing then, I'd switch my support to Marc Ouellet.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Scola? Seriously? I guess I just don't think it's a great idea to elect an overweight 72 year old.

[Obamanation]

A friend of mine who has very good connections with the Vatican told me to bet strongly on Scola.

I hope he's wrong.
Scola is close to PdL,and even went as far as saying that Renato Farina (PdL senator,who was suspended as a journalist after working for the Italian Secret Service as a spy) is "an absolutely great journalist".

The trouble is getting the non-Italians to agree to it though...

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

A friend of mine who has very good connections with the Vatican told me to bet strongly on Scola.

I hope he's wrong.
Scola is close to PdL,and even went as far as saying that Renato Farina (PdL senator,who was suspended as a journalist after working for the Italian Secret Service as a spy) is "an absolutely great journalist".

Oh dear...

Now the choice is obvious: Scherer all the way. Ideally I think I would support Shönborn, but he seems to have no chance.

I'm beginning to agree with this in its entirety, except I'd still find Ravasi at least somewhat acceptable.

[Paleobrazilian]

The black smoke came out today 20 minutes earlier than in 2005.

Tomorrow we should have more black smoke around 11 AM. I'll try to wake up early, just in case

[DKrol]

The black smoke came out today 20 minutes earlier than in 2005.

Tomorrow we should have more black smoke around 11 AM. I'll try to wake up early, just in case

I'm expecting White smoke later tomorrow.

[Benj]

The black smoke came out today 20 minutes earlier than in 2005.

Tomorrow we should have more black smoke around 11 AM. I'll try to wake up early, just in case

I'm expecting White smoke later tomorrow.

That would be faster than 2005, when Ratzinger was the prohibitive favorite from the beginning. No, I think we have a few days yet before white smoke.

[Old Man Svensson]

At this point I feel it's all we can do to hope for someone who isn't Scola.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Is white smoke likely around 3:00 PM EST time tomorrow? I want to watch the announcement of the new pope. I have a doctors appointment, but NBC, the official channel of all medical facilities, should break in live to air the coverage.

[TJ in Oregon]

Is white smoke likely around 3:00 PM EST time tomorrow? I want to watch the announcement of the new pope. I have a doctors appointment, but NBC, the official channel of all medical facilities, should break in live to air the coverage.

I doubt it. Most people think this election will be longer than average (which is about 3 days) and tomorrow is only day #2.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Unless Scola really is that much of a favourite. If we get an early announcement, Scola is the pope.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

More black smoke pouring from the chapel

[minionofmidas]

White smoke today or in tomorrow's first ballot is one in a hundred, folks.

[minionofmidas]

Well, until the white smoke arrives, all is guessing...

Actually, a sizable part of the papabili speculation to fill the papers is strictly speaking "lying" rather than "guessing".

[Paleobrazilian]

I wouldn't expect the conclave to go beyond Friday, though. That would project a huge sign of division, something the RCC has to avoid. If this goes beyond Friday, then things turned ugly.

I still think the decision will be made tomorrow, as long conclaves have basically disappeared over the last 100 years. 8 ballots is still my prediction.

[minionofmidas]

I wouldn't expect the conclave to go beyond Friday, though. That would project a huge sign of division, something the RCC has to avoid. If this goes beyond Friday, then things turned ugly.

I still think the decision will be made tomorrow, as long conclaves have basically disappeared over the last 100 years. 8 ballots is still my prediction.

Yes, tomorrow's later ballots or the day after is entirely plausible.

When this conclave's get leaked (it always happens, eventually) it will probably make for more interesting reading than last time.

[DC Al Fine]

I wouldn't expect the conclave to go beyond Friday, though. That would project a huge sign of division, something the RCC has to avoid. If this goes beyond Friday, then things turned ugly.

I still think the decision will be made tomorrow, as long conclaves have basically disappeared over the last 100 years. 8 ballots is still my prediction.

Yes, tomorrow's later ballots or the day after is entirely plausible.

When this conclave's get leaked (it always happens, eventually) it will probably make for more interesting reading than last time.

I say tomorrow or Friday at the latest.