The official Oldiesfreak thread

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPxBs7d1Es0

FTR, this was my idea, I posted it in the IRC and Snowstalker stole it

it's good of you to admit your mistakes.

[RogueBeaver]

All right, so I realize that I've angered a lot of people on here with my discussions of civil rights.  And while I care about this issue very much and will continue to discuss it, I'm going to start downplaying it and toning down my rhetoric on this site.  On a forum that's more friendly to conservatives, I might continue the way I've been doing it on here.  But I realize that my views on this and a host of other issues aren't very popular here.  So I will try to be a little less harsh with it.

[Kitteh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPxBs7d1Es0

FTR, this was my idea, I posted it in the IRC and Snowstalker stole it

it's good of you to admit your mistakes.

But I had the good taste not to. The conversation on irc went something like this:

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[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The problem is that is not at all funny. (OK the video alone sort of is but it's presence in this thread has no relevance and doesn't make any more funny. It'd be like me posting this again.)

[Kitteh]

The problem is that is not at all funny. (OK the video alone sort of is but it's presence in this thread has no relevance and doesn't make any more funny. It'd be like me posting this again.)

It's the "Oldies is black" meme.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The problem is that is not at all funny. (OK the video alone sort of is but it's presence in this thread has no relevance and doesn't make any more funny. It'd be like me posting this again.)

It's the "Oldies is black" meme.

Well of course. It just doesn't particularly work here. The video I posted above also had some relevance to who I was posting it too but that didn't make it any less stupid (You weren't on the forum when that was going on.)

[Kitteh]

The problem is that is not at all funny. (OK the video alone sort of is but it's presence in this thread has no relevance and doesn't make any more funny. It'd be like me posting this again.)

It's the "Oldies is black" meme.

Well of course. It just doesn't particularly work here. The video I posted above also had some relevance to who I was posting it too but that didn't make it any less stupid (You weren't on the forum when that was going on.)

Yeah, if I was going to post it I'd do it at a relevant time. You can blame Snowstalker for posting it within two seconds of when I linked it on irc.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I voted Hoover, although Curtis would be a good pick to (the first Native American president). 

Then again, why does it matter?  With the Socialists in charge thanks to this Bolshevik-dominated forum, America is about to become a communist country anyway.

[Kitteh]

I am not stupid.  I've spent three semesters in colleges, and I had a 4.0 GPA in two of them.

I bow down to your clear intellectual superiority, sir.

[Antonio the Sixth]

We'll miss you, but if you care about equal rights so much, they why aren't you still a Republican like me?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Q7. Generally speaking, who do you trust more to create jobs: Republicans in Congress, or President Obama?

Republicans in Congress 53%
President Obama 35%
Not sure 12%

lol arkansas

A lot of people in arkansas republicans in the south really hate obama.  I remember bring up his name and they asked me why am I talking about a N word Muslim.  That is horrible

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Will you please cut out the anti-Southern bigotry?  People in the South don't hate Obama because he's black, they hate him because he's a big government liberal who is woefully out of touch with most Southerners.  Granted, this is a PPP poll, and an early one at that, but I don't know whether to be jubilant or morose when I see this poll.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Obama is most definitely out of touch with Southerners (his inability to speak to proles was his biggest weakness in '08), though he is in no way a "big government liberal".

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Obama is most definitely out of touch with Southerners (his inability to speak to proles was his biggest weakness in '08), though he is in no way a "big government liberal".

It's the first sentence that I think sounds most odd, coming from Oldies.

[Kitteh]

Q7. Generally speaking, who do you trust more to create jobs: Republicans in Congress, or President Obama?

Republicans in Congress 53%
President Obama 35%
Not sure 12%

lol arkansas

A lot of people in arkansas republicans in the south really hate obama.  I remember bring up his name and they asked me why am I talking about a N word Muslim.  That is horrible

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Will you please cut out the anti-Southern bigotry?

xD

Anyway,

I voted Vitter, but I'm really not sure.  I feel like the South needs some Democratic governors, though.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Q7. Generally speaking, who do you trust more to create jobs: Republicans in Congress, or President Obama?

Republicans in Congress 53%
President Obama 35%
Not sure 12%

lol arkansas

A lot of people in arkansas republicans in the south really hate obama.  I remember bring up his name and they asked me why am I talking about a N word Muslim.  That is horrible

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Will you please cut out the anti-Southern bigotry?  People in the South don't hate Obama because he's black, they hate him because he's a big government liberal who is woefully out of touch with most Southerners.  Granted, this is a PPP poll, and an early one at that, but I don't know whether to be jubilant or morose when I see this poll.

But it's true.  I do admit though that I am probably one of the most virulent anti-Southern posters on here.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Classical- Democratic due to the large amount of academic/professor types that usually like classical

I'd actually say that classical is Lean R despite its intellectual bent, seeing as the largest audience is still country club olds.  Go to your local symphony, and the ads in the program are going to mostly be for "active living senior communities" and trust funds.  Oh, and luxury cars.

The musicians themselves, of course, are about super-safe D as can be.

So are the country club olds you mentioned.

Not if my family is any indication.  And they're from New Jersey, where one would expect to find a higher-than-average percentage of liberals among country club olds.

Your family is probably not any indication.

Country- Strong Republican
Pop- Democrat
Post-grunge- Democrat
Pop Punk- Strong Democrat
Hardcore Punk- Strong Democrat
Metalcore- Strong Democrat, but with some Libertarian mixed in as well
Christian Hardcore- Lean Democrat
Christian Contemporary- Lean Republican (not Strong R since many fundamentalist denominations, mine included, are against it)
Classical- Strong Democrat
Heavy Metal- Democrat
Death Metal- Democrat
Black Metal- Strong Democrat
Post-hardcore- Democrat
Grindcore- Democrat
Emoviolence- Democrat
Christian Emoviolence- Lean Democrat
Reggae- Strong Democrat, but with some Libertarians and Greens mixed in.
Indie Rock- Strong Democrat
Electronic- Democrat
Classic Rock- About even, maybe Lean Democrat (Republican if I'm any indicator)
Post-Rock- Democrat

Classical- Democratic due to the large amount of academic/professor types that usually like classical

I'd actually say that classical is Lean R despite its intellectual bent, seeing as the largest audience is still country club olds.  Go to your local symphony, and the ads in the program are going to mostly be for "active living senior communities" and trust funds.  Oh, and luxury cars.

The musicians themselves, of course, are about super-safe D as can be.

So are the country club olds you mentioned.

So Republicans basically listen to nothing but country?

Yep.  Most musicians outside of country tend to be very liberal, so I don't see why very many people who aren't liberals would listen to their music.

Even though I'm primarily posting this for the last line, there's tons of amusing Oldiesfreak-esque bits before it too that are quite a bit more subtle (I think he also proved that he clearly doesn't know what "black metal" is.)

[Lief 🗽]

Interesting poll result, re: oldiesfreaks' incorrect historical opinions:

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/02/kansas-miscellany.html

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Interesting poll result, re: oldiesfreaks' incorrect historical opinions:

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/02/kansas-miscellany.html

My historical opinions are not incorrect.  You simlly say they are because you don't like them.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

You simply say they are because you don't like them.

We don't like them because they are incorrect and stupid.  It all ties together.

[Lief 🗽]

Interesting poll result, re: oldiesfreaks' incorrect historical opinions:

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/02/kansas-miscellany.html

My historical opinions are not incorrect.  You simlly say they are because you don't like them.

Regardless of whatever you're talking about, it's interesting that (the supposedly racist) Democrats hold the most famous abolitionist in greater esteem than Republicans.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Interesting poll result, re: oldiesfreaks' incorrect historical opinions:

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/02/kansas-miscellany.html

My historical opinions are not incorrect.  You simlly say they are because you don't like them.

They are correct in the sense that they are historically. They are simply irrelevant. This is equivalent to someone rooting against Germany's sports teams in international competitions because they believe Germany is an evil, racist, anti-Semitic nation.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Interesting poll result, re: oldiesfreaks' incorrect historical opinions:

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/02/kansas-miscellany.html

My historical opinions are not incorrect.  You simlly say they are because you don't like them.

They are correct in the sense that they are historically. They are simply irrelevant. This is equivalent to someone rooting against Germany's sports teams in international competitions because they believe Germany is an evil, racist, anti-Semitic nation.

No, they're not irrelevant.  It doesn't matter whether or not Democrats support slavery/segregation now, because no rational person in either party would want to bring either of those things back.  What matters is how the parties stood on those issies when they existed.  When they existed, slavery and segregation were both supported by Democrats and opposed by Republicans.  Doesn't that ever give you pause, at least for a moment?  And your comparison to Germany and the Holocaust falls flat because people can't choose whether or not they are German (at least if they're native Germans), but they can choose whether or not they are a Democrat.  If you have a choice, then why not go with the party that fought (and in some cases even died) for civil rights, even when it was unpopular? 

Interesting poll result, re: oldiesfreaks' incorrect historical opinions:

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/02/kansas-miscellany.html

My historical opinions are not incorrect.  You simlly say they are because you don't like them.

Regardless of whatever you're talking about, it's interesting that (the supposedly racist) Democrats hold the most famous abolitionist in greater esteem than Republicans.

First, consider the source.  PPP has a history of very biased polls toward Democrats.  They may be accurate just before an election, but early on, they tend to produce some highly overstated Dem numbers.  Second, a lot of those people probably don't know for sure who John Brown was.  Third, I don't think this is very accurate if it was only taken in Kansas.  Finally, the most famous abolitionist was probably Lincoln anyway.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

No, they're not irrelevant.  It doesn't matter whether or not Democrats support slavery/segregation now, because no rational person in either party would want to bring either of those things back.  What matters is how the parties stood on those issies when they existed.  When they existed, slavery and segregation were both supported by Democrats and opposed by Republicans.  Doesn't that ever give you pause, at least for a moment? 

No it doesn't.  Not even for a moment. And if you note, you are literally the only person on the forum for whom you seem to care about this (and that includes other Republicans.)

[Antonio the Sixth]

Still waiting for Oldies to come with a rational explanation for this:

[Mechaman]

No, they're not irrelevant.  It doesn't matter whether or not Democrats support slavery/segregation now, because no rational person in either party would want to bring either of those things back.  What matters is how the parties stood on those issies when they existed.  When they existed, slavery and segregation were both supported by Democrats and opposed by Republicans.  Doesn't that ever give you pause, at least for a moment?

No more pause than Republicans being anti-gay rights in the 2012. . . . . . . . . before the pretty dramatic shift amongst the party towards gay marriage that seems to be getting more and more Republican lawmakers behind it's cause by the day.

Granted, Republicans warmed up to gay marriage a lot quicker than Democrats to desegregation.