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[SPC]

No Cain, no Newt... I guess Broun is the best we can hope for.

I guess Broun or Price is the best I could realistically hope for here.

I doubt someone who talks about "the Great War of Yankee Aggression", or calls evolution & embryology a lie straight from the pit of hell, or who (in 2011), when someone asked "Who's going to shoot Obama?" responded with a few sentences about how he was frustrated with the President, and laughter, who referred to the current President as a "Marxist", who said he didn't know if Obama was a citizen or a Christian,who  called CAIR a spy organization connected to terrorists, who called global warming a conspiracy, who tried to push through the Federal Marriage Amendment, who suggested we should only pat-down Arabs, or who voted for Allen West for Speaker of the House would be any kind of effective national spokesman for liberty, and would probably tarnish the movement more than he would help.

I'll take a supporter of ending the Fed and fiscal responsibility with wacky personal views over whatever Establishment lackey ends up being the alternative.

[Donerail]

No Cain, no Newt... I guess Broun is the best we can hope for.

I guess Broun or Price is the best I could realistically hope for here.

I doubt someone who talks about "the Great War of Yankee Aggression", or calls evolution & embryology a lie straight from the pit of hell, or who (in 2011), when someone asked "Who's going to shoot Obama?" responded with a few sentences about how he was frustrated with the President, and laughter, who referred to the current President as a "Marxist", who said he didn't know if Obama was a citizen or a Christian,who  called CAIR a spy organization connected to terrorists, who called global warming a conspiracy, who tried to push through the Federal Marriage Amendment, who suggested we should only pat-down Arabs, or who voted for Allen West for Speaker of the House would be any kind of effective national spokesman for liberty, and would probably tarnish the movement more than he would help.

I'll take a supporter of ending the Fed and fiscal responsibility with wacky personal views over whatever Establishment lackey ends up being the alternative.

That's not the point. The point is that electing that guy means we can get less seats in the future, because now we're associated with that guy. Tarnishes the image.

[Bacon King]

!!!!!!

No way Herman Cain runs, he just got his cushy radio job back. Gingrich won't run either, he hasn't lived in the state for a decade. Big names are looking like: Broun, Price, Kingston, maybe someone from a lower statewide office, like Butler? It's possible Erickson reconsiders his run now, but I doubt it. As for the Democratic side, the only chance Barrow runs is if he's guaranteed no serious opposition in the primary, I think. Given how the GOP primary will probably go, he'd probably have a fairly decent chance of success.

[opebo]

I guess Broun or Price is the best I could realistically hope for here.

Shouldn't we be hoping for the most vicious, monstrous one in order to do the only thing a Senator from Georgia can do?  (besmirch the name of the GOP outside the South).

[wan]

This is just the kind of opportunity I think we progressive/liberal/Democrats need to take advantage of. Its an opportunity to find the perfect Democratic Georgia candidate and then get behind him or her on a national basis.

Kind of like what happened with Elizabeth Warren in Massachusetts.

[JerryArkansas]

+ one with a good democrate

[Talleyrand]

What about State Senator Jason Carter for the Democrats? He's only thirty-seven, represents a rural district, and seems pretty charismatic.

If the Georgia Democratic Party doesn't put up a decent candidate, then I'm all for Herman Cain.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

This is just the kind of opportunity I think we progressive/liberal/Democrats need to take advantage of. Its an opportunity to find the perfect Democratic Georgia candidate and then get behind him or her on a national basis.

Kind of like what happened with Elizabeth Warren in Massachusetts.

No no no no no. That's the opposite of what needs to happen. The last thing we need to do is make this a national race on a national basis. We need to treat this race like Montana, North Dakota, and Inidana; a local race with a local candidate on local issues. If we make this "a race to decide Senate Control" we lose. But if this is a race between who the best candidate is to represent Georgia, we have a chance.

The best analogy would be Heidi Heitkamp.

The best analogy

[justfollowingtheelections]

I highly doubt any Democrat could win Georgia right now.

[nolesfan2011]

Cain and Newt are out (no fire in the belly from either), Westmoreland, Price, Broun, and possibly Kingston are in.. Karen Handel may also take a look.

Price and Broun will compete for tea party votes.. Kingston and Handel are considered more "moderate" (by GOP standards).. and each has their bases of support, runoff is assured.

As for the Dems, they have no chance whatsoever unless Barrow runs, and even then the primary electorate might run him off in a Obamabot purity test :/

Paul Broun should win if the primary is a contest of ideological purity, no?

[nolesfan2011]

Erickson won't run if Price runs

!!!!!!

No way Herman Cain runs, he just got his cushy radio job back. Gingrich won't run either, he hasn't lived in the state for a decade. Big names are looking like: Broun, Price, Kingston, maybe someone from a lower statewide office, like Butler? It's possible Erickson reconsiders his run now, but I doubt it. As for the Democratic side, the only chance Barrow runs is if he's guaranteed no serious opposition in the primary, I think. Given how the GOP primary will probably go, he'd probably have a fairly decent chance of success.

[Talleyrand]

This is just the kind of opportunity I think we progressive/liberal/Democrats need to take advantage of. Its an opportunity to find the perfect Democratic Georgia candidate and then get behind him or her on a national basis.

Kind of like what happened with Elizabeth Warren in Massachusetts.

No no no no no. That's the opposite of what needs to happen. The last thing we need to do is make this a national race on a national basis. We need to treat this race like Montana, North Dakota, and Inidana; a local race with a local candidate on local issues. If we make this "a race to decide Senate Control" we lose. But if this is a race between who the best candidate is to represent Georgia, we have a chance.

The best analogy would be Heidi Heitkamp.

The best analogy

So you think Carter could be the Georgia version of Heitkamp?

[nolesfan2011]

Yep, and Barrow is our only hope.. except maybe Dubose Porter or Dale Cardwell as backbenchers.. Jim Marshall is an old codger.

The GA Dems are too liberal (small l) these days though.. not gonna end well, they would rather have purity than win.

Nationalizing this race would be a disaster.. John Barrow, and his guns, are our only hope.

This is just the kind of opportunity I think we progressive/liberal/Democrats need to take advantage of. Its an opportunity to find the perfect Democratic Georgia candidate and then get behind him or her on a national basis.

Kind of like what happened with Elizabeth Warren in Massachusetts.

No no no no no. That's the opposite of what needs to happen. The last thing we need to do is make this a national race on a national basis. We need to treat this race like Montana, North Dakota, and Inidana; a local race with a local candidate on local issues. If we make this "a race to decide Senate Control" we lose. But if this is a race between who the best candidate is to represent Georgia, we have a chance.

The best analogy would be Heidi Heitkamp.

The best analogy

[nolesfan2011]

Carter isn't experienced enough

This is just the kind of opportunity I think we progressive/liberal/Democrats need to take advantage of. Its an opportunity to find the perfect Democratic Georgia candidate and then get behind him or her on a national basis.

Kind of like what happened with Elizabeth Warren in Massachusetts.

No no no no no. That's the opposite of what needs to happen. The last thing we need to do is make this a national race on a national basis. We need to treat this race like Montana, North Dakota, and Inidana; a local race with a local candidate on local issues. If we make this "a race to decide Senate Control" we lose. But if this is a race between who the best candidate is to represent Georgia, we have a chance.

The best analogy would be Heidi Heitkamp.

The best analogy

So you think Carter could be the Georgia version of Heitkamp?

[Bacon King]

Jason Carter isn't from a rural district; he represents the states only white liberal urban district.

[Talleyrand]

Jason Carter isn't from a rural district; he represents the states only white liberal urban district.

Oh, I thought he represented the Plains area.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Jason Carter isn't from a rural district; he represents the states only white liberal urban district.

Oh, I thought he represented the Plains area.

I've taken a new interest on his prospects. Jimmy is still wildly popular among Georgians. I think Senator Carter would play well there.

Carter isn't experienced enough

He'd have been in the State Senate for 4 years. The experience arguement never wins among voters. See Nixon '60, Bush '92, McCain '00, Gore '00,  and McCain '08.

I'd prefer Barrow to go after corrupt Deal. He'd be better as Governor.

[justfollowingtheelections]

I would vote for Jimmy's other grandson:



He would probably appeal more to the BRTD types in Minnesota though.

[justfollowingtheelections]

I also like Amy Carter, Jimmy's hippy daughter.  Here she is with her husband (nice ponytail):

[DrScholl]

Barrow isn't running and neither is Carter's grandson, I doubt that Carter's grandson would be all that great of a candidate, family name doesn't always go that far in elections.

Thurbert Baker would be a good choice, he's run statewide before and is a moderate.

[old timey villain]

This is just the kind of opportunity I think we progressive/liberal/Democrats need to take advantage of. Its an opportunity to find the perfect Democratic Georgia candidate and then get behind him or her on a national basis.

Kind of like what happened with Elizabeth Warren in Massachusetts.

No no no no no. That's the opposite of what needs to happen. The last thing we need to do is make this a national race on a national basis. We need to treat this race like Montana, North Dakota, and Inidana; a local race with a local candidate on local issues. If we make this "a race to decide Senate Control" we lose. But if this is a race between who the best candidate is to represent Georgia, we have a chance.

The best analogy would be Heidi Heitkamp.

The best analogy

Yes, for god's sake don't make this a big national race. Then all the Republicans who come out to vote will just see it as a referendum on Obama and they won't give the Democrat a second look.

Georgia is dealing with lots of state issues that Dems can use to their advantage- growing pains, income gaps, failing schools, an intransigent GOP state house majority. If we run a Dem who focuses on fixing these issues and doesn't bill himself as an Obama rubber stamp, we might have a chance.

[old timey villain]

Barrow isn't running and neither is Carter's grandson, I doubt that Carter's grandson would be all that great of a candidate, family name doesn't always go that far in elections.

Thurbert Baker would be a good choice, he's run statewide before and is a moderate.

No. The last thing we need is a no name boring black democrat running for this seat. Maybe you don't understand Georgia, but almost any black democrat is a non starter in a statewide race- and it's not their fault, the bubbas will automatically turn their nose up. But unfortunately, we'll need some of that bubba vote to win this one.

[adma]

Georgia is dealing with lots of state issues that Dems can use to their advantage- growing pains, income gaps, failing schools, an intransigent GOP state house majority.

And, I suppose, that US urban-suburban universal of "diversifying" demos.  IOW it's a long-term blessing that Atlanta is a "metropolis"...

[Bacon King]

Barrow isn't running and neither is Carter's grandson, I doubt that Carter's grandson would be all that great of a candidate, family name doesn't always go that far in elections.

Thurbert Baker would be a good choice, he's run statewide before and is a moderate.

No. The last thing we need is a no name boring black democrat running for this seat. Maybe you don't understand Georgia, but almost any black democrat is a non starter in a statewide race- and it's not their fault, the bubbas will automatically turn their nose up. But unfortunately, we'll need some of that bubba vote to win this one.

Thurbert Baker actually had the biggest win of any statewide candidate in 2006. Just sayin'.

[RogueBeaver]

All I can say is Thank God for the runoff system. No "Gingrey/Broun win with 22.6%" type headlines.