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Thomas_S_Richard106
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« on: January 20, 2013, 09:08:17 PM »

Mormon: 72/27 Romney
Christian Orthodox: 68/31 Romney
Protestant: 57/42 Romney
Catholic: 53/46 Obama
Jewish: 66/33 Obama
Buddhist: 79/20 Obama
Hindu: 81/18 Obama
Muslim: 86/13 Obama
Atheist: 87/12 Obama


English Americans: 51/48 Obama
Scottish Americans: 50/49 Obama
Scandinavian Americans:50/49 Romney
Irish Americans: 51/48 Romney
German Americans: 55/44 Romney
Italian Americans: 56/43 Romney
Polish Americans: 59/41 Romney
ALL White Americans: 59/41 Romney
Russian Americans: 66/33 Romney
Ukrainian Americans: 69/30 Romney
Greek Americans: 71/28 Romney

Pakistani Americans: 89/10 Obama
Indian Americans: 80/19 Obama
Chinese Americans: 79/20 Obama
Korean Americans: 74/25 Obama
ALL Asian Americans: 73/26 Obama
Filipino Americans: 54/45 Obama
Vietnamese Americans: 57/42 Romney

Mexican Americans: 79/20 Obama
ALL Hispanic Americans: 72/26
Cuban Americans: 57/42 Obama

African Americans:96/4 Obama

Native Americans: 62/36 Obama

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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2013, 09:43:17 PM »

Where are you getting this from? There's NO way Obama won English Americans, and he probably did a lot better with Poles, Vietnamese, and Greeks.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2013, 11:49:24 PM »


If you say so, Tom.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2013, 07:29:31 AM »

For census-questionnaire native alone or in combination, this might actually be accurate. Claiming Native ancestry on the Census because your great-great-granduncle raped a Native girl once is a redneck thing to do.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2013, 08:16:18 AM »

For census-questionnaire native alone or in combination, this might actually be accurate. Claiming Native ancestry on the Census because your great-great-granduncle raped a Native girl once is a redneck thing to do.

How about claiming it to get free healthcare? Tongue The trouble with giving returns from many of the European groups is that they have mixed with other European groups for several generations now.
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2013, 09:16:41 AM »

You need to be an enrolled member of a federally recognized tribe for that (though of course, in Oklahoma many of that type of people are enrolled members of a federally recognized tribe). And there's no IHS facility near you; the nearest would probably be in Philadelphia MS. You'll get better service just as free here without a tribal membership card.
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2013, 09:46:39 AM »

You need to be an enrolled member of a federally recognized tribe for that (though of course, in Oklahoma many of that type of people are enrolled members of a federally recognized tribe). And there's no IHS facility near you; the nearest would probably be in Philadelphia MS. You'll get better service just as free here without a tribal membership card.

It was a jab at Bushie. I forget that not everybody is a hardore Update fan. I have no native ancestry as I can date all my ancestors back to their arrival in the United States. It wasn't all that long ago. And I'm extremely fortunate that I can afford my very limited healthcare needs just fine. For the foreseeable future, at least. The American health care system is such a financial trainwreck should one ever need to use it!
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2013, 09:53:13 AM »
« Edited: January 21, 2013, 10:19:34 AM by Esecutore di Mida »

Bushie's an enrolled member? Which nation?

I never heard of this.

EDIT: Okay, I've found him mention his ancestry about half a dozen times. Pretty sure I'd seen at least one of these before. Didn't see him mention whether he's actually enrolled or at least eligible for enrollment, which given the details I saw he may well be, but impossible to be sure from that alone.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2013, 09:20:59 PM »

Where are you getting this from? There's NO way Obama won English Americans, and he probably did a lot better with Poles, Vietnamese, and Greeks.

I do agree.

I guess some people don't know that "English Americans" exist outside of New England. . . . .
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2013, 10:48:04 PM »

Orthodox Christians in the US are mostly Greek-American and they tend to lean Democratic.

I say this as someone who was baptized in a Greek Orthodox congregation in Texas that had a lot of Democratic regulars. (And of course they loved Dukakis and Tsongas).
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2013, 08:41:08 AM »

Filipino Americans: 54/45 Obama
Vietnamese Americans: 57/42 Romney


No way in hell Viets voted for Romney like that. And yay for Filipino Americans not voting for Romney as I feared. 
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2013, 09:20:13 AM »

Where are you getting this from? There's NO way Obama won English Americans, and he probably did a lot better with Poles, Vietnamese, and Greeks.
Filipino Americans: 54/45 Obama
Vietnamese Americans: 57/42 Romney


No way in hell Viets voted for Romney like that. And yay for Filipino Americans not voting for Romney as I feared. 

I read an article that showed that Viets vote overwhelmingly GOP as a result of surviving Communism (much like Cuban Americans.)  There is no way that Romney did that we'll with Irish Americans, at least the Irish Catholics.  And Romney had to have done way better than that with Scottish Americans (then again, I'm half Scottish by ancestry and a Republican, so maybe that colors my view.)
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2013, 09:25:01 AM »

The numbers are how Vietnamese Americans have traditionally voted. This year, however, Republicans got positively slaughtered in all the heavily Vietnamese places. It's what happens when you tell your voters to self-deport.
We're talking 40 point swings here.
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2013, 11:28:48 AM »

Bush voted for Obama.
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2013, 09:01:28 PM »

The numbers are how Vietnamese Americans have traditionally voted. This year, however, Republicans got positively slaughtered in all the heavily Vietnamese places. It's what happens when you tell your voters to self-deport.
We're talking 40 point swings here.

Disgraceful falsehood.  Nobody told legal immigrants to self-deport. 

Shut the f**k up
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2013, 09:11:36 PM »

The numbers are how Vietnamese Americans have traditionally voted. This year, however, Republicans got positively slaughtered in all the heavily Vietnamese places. It's what happens when you tell your voters to self-deport.
We're talking 40 point swings here.

Disgraceful falsehood.  Nobody told legal immigrants to self-deport. 

Shut the f**k up

And were the boat people legal immigrants when they arrived elsewhere in Southeast Asia from Vietnam?  Somehow I doubt immigrant communities that have a heavy dose of refugees in them are going to see the legal/illegal distinction the way white Republicans do.
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2013, 04:18:46 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2013, 04:21:01 PM by CountryClassSF »

It's actually quite astonishing to see how  Romney apparently gained no ground with mormons, and actually did a few points worse than Bush did.

What can we attribute this to?

I'd say two things stand out:

A) It's interesting that Romney did outperform even Bush '04's Utah totals despite this data.

and B) Romney largely avoided his faith like the plague throughout the entire campaign.  I don't think there was any outreach attempted

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The numbers are how Vietnamese Americans have traditionally voted. This year, however, Republicans got positively slaughtered in all the heavily Vietnamese places. It's what happens when you tell your voters to self-deport.
We're talking 40 point swings here.

You're either grossly misinformed or just not being honest.  Self-deportation would be for *illegal aliens*--folks who came to this country illegally and do NOT have voting rights. No one told "voters" to self-deport.
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2013, 08:53:28 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2013, 09:14:59 PM »

I was curious about the Greek vote and I have been searching for a poll, and I finally found one:

http://usa.greekreporter.com/2012/11/04/gr-election-poll-shows-greek-americans-back-obama/

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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2013, 01:14:54 AM »

I'm guessing the Agnostic vote was 75/24 Obama.
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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2013, 01:04:37 PM »
« Edited: January 26, 2013, 01:10:19 PM by Snowstalker »

I was curious about the Greek vote and I have been searching for a poll, and I finally found one:

http://usa.greekreporter.com/2012/11/04/gr-election-poll-shows-greek-americans-back-obama/

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The urban white working-class is still strongly Democratic. For this reason, I'd assume that Obama also won Serbs, Croats, Lithuanians, and Poles (the latter being much closer than the former 3).
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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2013, 05:08:25 PM »

I'm guessing the Agnostic vote was 75/24 Obama.

Actually, most of them were undecided.
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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2013, 05:15:54 PM »

I'm guessing the Agnostic vote was 75/24 Obama.

Actually, most of them were undecided.

Hahaha, funny.
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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2013, 09:47:39 PM »

Mormon: 72/27 Romney
Christian Orthodox: 68/31 Romney
Protestant: 57/42 Romney
Catholic: 53/46 Obama
Jewish: 66/33 Obama
Buddhist: 79/20 Obama
Hindu: 81/18 Obama
Muslim: 86/13 Obama
Atheist: 87/12 Obama


English Americans: 51/48 Obama
Scottish Americans: 50/49 Obama
Scandinavian Americans:50/49 Romney
Irish Americans: 51/48 Romney
German Americans: 55/44 Romney
Italian Americans: 56/43 Romney
Polish Americans: 59/41 Romney
ALL White Americans: 59/41 Romney
Russian Americans: 66/33 Romney
Ukrainian Americans: 69/30 Romney
Greek Americans: 71/28 Romney

Pakistani Americans: 89/10 Obama
Indian Americans: 80/19 Obama
Chinese Americans: 79/20 Obama
Korean Americans: 74/25 Obama
ALL Asian Americans: 73/26 Obama
Filipino Americans: 54/45 Obama
Vietnamese Americans: 57/42 Romney

Mexican Americans: 79/20 Obama
ALL Hispanic Americans: 72/26
Cuban Americans: 57/42 Obama

African Americans:96/4 Obama

Native Americans: 62/36 Obama



There is no way Obama won the English-American vote.  Maybe in New England, but in the Mormon states as well as Deep South they would have gone strongly for Romney.  I would also be interested in what the Dutch-American vote was.  I am guessing it was 60-65% for Romney.

Also for Italian and Polish-Americans, I have a tough time believing Romney did better amongst them than German-Americans.  He may have won them but considering most are in the Great Lakes and Northeast where the white vote was fairly evenly split, I suspect it was a lot closer.  For Scandinavian-Americans, I wonder what the breakdown by group was as I suspect the Danish-Americans probably went most heavily for Romney, followed by the Swedish-Americans, while the Norwegian and Finnish-Americans if those numbers are correct probably narrowly favoured Obama.

Most Russian-Americans are Jewish so pretty sure Obama won them and Ukrainian-Americans did not go 2/3 for Romney while Greek-Americans are mostly in large urban centres like Chicago, Boston, New York, and Philadelphia so pretty sure Obama won them too.  Portuguese-Americans probably also favoured Obama as well.  For Scots-Irish, I suspect that group went over 2/3 for Romney.

As for Cuban-Americans, it was 50-47% in Florida so I think Romney won this group albeit a strong age gap as it looks like Obama solidly won the younger Cuban vote, but the older Cuban vote went heavily for Romney. 

As for Native Americans it was probably at least 80% for Obama maybe 90%.  If you look at the reserve vote, it was usually over 90% Obama.  True some like the Cherokees and Navajo don't vote quite as massively as a block, although I still suspect Obama got over 70% from them.  If you include those of mixed Native blood, you may be right as many in the Appalachians and South have a small amount of Native blood and off course they went heavily for Romney.
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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2013, 11:22:52 PM »


I doubt it, although his daughter Barbara Bush might have as her viewpoints on a whole wack of issues seem rather liberal.
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