How would Brad Henry do against Jim Inholfe?
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« on: January 08, 2013, 02:18:58 AM »

I think Henry's the best the Democrats can do in Oklahoma.
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 02:23:29 AM »

Badly. Despite the fact that a plurality of Oklahomans still insist on calling themselves Democrats.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2013, 02:52:42 AM »

Would go down. Maybe if he ran he could force Inhofe into retirement though, and I dunno if Oklahoma has such a great Republican bench.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2013, 03:00:22 AM »

Would go down. Maybe if he ran he could force Inhofe into retirement though, and I dunno if Oklahoma has such a great Republican bench.

Oklahoma's Republican bench may not be great in a normal state, but its good enough for here, and its plenty deep: Every house rep and the Governor at least would want to go for the Senate seat, along with a couple of former house reps.

Henry would do better if the Republican managed to nominate someone that would out-rage the base enough to get a very conservative, very successful third party, and vote splitting would cause Henry to win.

Also, if Obama isn't the President, Henry does immediately better.
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2013, 03:06:02 AM »

My guess is that a few polls would show Henry without striking distance, causing some Democrats investment in the race, but in the end barring something unusual happening he does no better than a 10 point loss. See: HI-SEN, NE-SEN in 2012.
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2013, 03:09:52 AM »

My guess is that a few polls would show Henry without striking distance, causing some Democrats investment in the race, but in the end barring something unusual happening he does no better than a 10 point loss. See: HI-SEN, NE-SEN in 2012.

I could see him getting within the 10 point range, but ultimately time has passed for a non-uber conservative Democrat to win in Oklahoma. Then again, he won the Governors seat in a complete upset, but managed to endear himself with Oklahomans and won re-election against a well known congressman in the state 2-1. It's very possible that he could make a turn-around campaign again, just not against Inhofe.
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, 04:16:44 PM »

Inhofe tends to underperform. But with Obama still president, I don't see Henry getting more than 45% or so.
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2013, 04:27:10 PM »

Could he run for Governor again? That ought to be much more winnable for a Democrat still.
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2013, 05:35:51 PM »

Could he run for Governor again? That ought to be much more winnable for a Democrat still.

Term-limited. He could not.

There are only two other democrats that could even make a run of it above 40%: Boren, and possibly former Mayor of Tulsa and Secretary of State Susan Savage.
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 05:55:24 PM »

Probably as well as Linda Lingle.
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2013, 08:27:53 PM »

He would get crushed. The last Democratic Presidential nominee to win even a single county in this state was Gore in 2000. As popular as Henry was as Governor, the Oklahoma Democratic Party is in shambles now. The D label has become poison here.

In regards to the GOP bench...it's solid. Two top names coming to mind (if Inhofe retires) are Rep. James Lankford and former State Senator Randy Brogdon, who waged a nearly successful primary against Mary Fallin in the 2010 Gubernatorial contest.

This is the current state of the OK GOP:
US Senate Seats: 2/2
US House Seats: 5/5
Statewide Offices: 11/11
OK Senate Seats: 36/48
OK House Seats: 72/101

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I know my avatar is from Massachussets, but welcome fellow Oklahoman! While I agree with the basic premise, I think Lankford is working on climbing GOP leadership in the House. It would be someone who is hopeless to GOP leadership but has a lot of publicity like Bridenstine.
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2013, 08:42:05 PM »

Henry would get at least a Bob Kerrey performance against Fischer but not enough to win. Maybe with a President Warner, Clinton or Schweitzer, he would electable.
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2013, 12:00:46 PM »

He would get crushed. The last Democratic Presidential nominee to win even a single county in this state was Gore in 2000. As popular as Henry was as Governor, the Oklahoma Democratic Party is in shambles now. The D label has become poison here.

In regards to the GOP bench...it's solid. Two top names coming to mind (if Inhofe retires) are Rep. James Lankford and former State Senator Randy Brogdon, who waged a nearly successful primary against Mary Fallin in the 2010 Gubernatorial contest.

This is the current state of the OK GOP:
US Senate Seats: 2/2
US House Seats: 5/5
Statewide Offices: 11/11
OK Senate Seats: 36/48
OK House Seats: 72/101

(it wouldn't let me just post the pic)

I know my avatar is from Massachussets, but welcome fellow Oklahoman! While I agree with the basic premise, I think Lankford is working on climbing GOP leadership in the House. It would be someone who is hopeless to GOP leadership but has a lot of publicity like Bridenstine.

Yes, indeed, it is refreshing to see more Okies on the forum.  I, as everyone knows, am an Okie, having just moved to Utah last September.

Brad Henry would do well, perhaps falling just short, in a non-Obama administration.

I think the Democratic bench will come back when Obama is no longer in office.  Its not that the D label is toxic in Oklahoma, its more that Obama makes the D label toxic.  Without Obama, the D label is just less flavorable than the R label, but not toxic.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2013, 11:41:37 PM »

It would be far more difficult for him to win a Senate seat.  He would need a split in the GOP vote between someone VERY extreme (Inhofe is up there) and a more moderate candidate taking about 10% or so.  Then, he may just have a chance.  The Kansas GOP has experienced this a few times, but more so in Gubernatorial races rather than in Senatorial campaigns.
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2013, 08:29:30 AM »

Inhofe tends to underperform. But with Obama still president, I don't see Henry getting more than 45% or so.


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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2013, 10:49:17 AM »

In a Midterm with an unpopular Republican president in office, Henry might have a shot. In other words, not in 2014.
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