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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2014, 03:16:33 PM »

That religion map is really interesting. One of the few clear examples of stark differences on other sides of political boundaries. (Oklahoma/Kansas is another one, although they're both highly Republican states).

Also that there are Baptist-plurality areas leaking into eastern NM.  Wouldn't have expected that, especially so far south.
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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2014, 03:24:37 PM »

That religion map bears a rough resemblance to the 1976 map - Methodism and Lutheranism in the Democratic areas, Republicans winning the Catholic areas and the Dutch Reformed northwest corner. (Unlike other Catholic immigrants, German Catholics have historically tended Republican, particularly in the Midwest)

however, the current political geography of Iowa is quite different, with more of an East/West and urban/rural divide


Except Dubuque County, which has always been pretty Catholic. JFK got over 60% in there in 1960, one of only 6 Iowa counties that he won.
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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2014, 03:52:36 PM »

That religion map bears a rough resemblance to the 1976 map - Methodism and Lutheranism in the Democratic areas, Republicans winning the Catholic areas and the Dutch Reformed northwest corner. (Unlike other Catholic immigrants, German Catholics have historically tended Republican, particularly in the Midwest)

however, the current political geography of Iowa is quite different, with more of an East/West and urban/rural divide


Except Dubuque County, which has always been pretty Catholic. JFK got over 60% in there in 1960, one of only 6 Iowa counties that he won.

And Dubuque was one of only a few Iowa counties that voted against Lincoln in 1860 or 1864. 
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2014, 08:27:28 AM »

It is interesting that Romney got above 60 percent in most northern Missouri counties sometimes up to 70 percent in certain counties then right across the border in southern Iowa he fails to hit 53 percent in most of them. It is weird how just across the state line it goes from very Republican to barley Republican. Anyone not on an ego trip have any explainations?

The state line between IA and MO is pretty clear from a religious standpoint:


Well if we just went by demographics and voting patterns alone, Iowa would be a red state and Mississippi would be in play.

There must be some other factor into this one, perhaps Iowa isn't a big Evangelical state like Kansas or Nebraska. It also has more medium sized cities than Kansas or Nebraska.

Iowa has plenty of Evangelicals but it also has plenty of Illinois-style Catholics and Minnesota-style Lutherans.

True. The ELCA population in NE IA is a lot like MN, and is more Dem Leaning. NE IA and W WI are both more like MN. W IA is more like NE and KS.






thank you for those wonderful maps Smiley


i search a map like this BUT with addition of all protestant churchs, for seeing where are the strong places of catholics (because the division of protestants make catholics falsely too strong in the first map here)

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« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2014, 09:40:14 PM »

You can't compare the upper Mississippi with the Great American Desert. You may as well compare WV and MS.
[quote author=memphis link=topic=167296.msg3578235#msg3578235

Yeah, demographically Iowa is much more like MN or WI than KS or NE. 
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« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2014, 09:40:52 PM »

You can't compare the upper Mississippi with the Great American Desert. You may as well compare WV and MS.
[quote author=memphis link=topic=167296.msg3578235#msg3578235

Yeah, demographically Iowa is much more like MN or WI than KS or NE. 
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« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2016, 11:06:38 AM »

Not difficult. Like any welfare recipient they are beholding to the party that continually supports their farm subsidies. As the GOP continue to support fossil fuels... ie coal... the Iowans and their dependence on government "clean air/alternative fuel" subsidies are considered at risk. Iowa boast being the leading producer of ethanol and wind "power". If it was left to market forces... the money/jobs they currently enjoy would vaporize. Not passing judgement here... just dealing with realities. We are all capable of being bought off and justifying the "investment' if the price is right.

I will vote for any candidate/support the party who promises me a free house and tells me it would be justified... wouldn't you?     
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« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2016, 11:13:29 AM »

As the GOP continue to support fossil fuels... ie coal... the Iowans and their dependence on government "clean air/alternative fuel" subsidies are considered at risk. Iowa boast being the leading producer of ethanol and wind "power".

Would either party really strip their subsidies, though? Iowa being the first primary state has given it some degree of protection from the presidents of both parties. I think if a president signed off on taking the subsidies away, his party's next candidates (state and national level) would get ripped apart there next go round' and thus possibly imperil their presidential chances.
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« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2016, 03:16:40 AM »

I think it will be after this election.  Some pretty dramatic polls there.  I think you'll see Colorado go the same direction.  As a Republican, I worry most about Virginia long term, though I think we get it back for a cycle with Rubio.
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« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2016, 12:13:44 PM »

Every election cycle, we always talk about how close the election os gonna be and it will come down to Iowa. One thing, the GOP have trouble in these midwest working class states thats adjacent to South.

Its a rural state, with a urban city of Des Moines , with alot of college students in Iowa City, that turn the state purple, not red.
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« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2016, 05:47:37 PM »

It is interesting that Romney got above 60 percent in most northern Missouri counties sometimes up to 70 percent in certain counties then right across the border in southern Iowa he fails to hit 53 percent in most of them. It is weird how just across the state line it goes from very Republican to barley Republican. Anyone not on an ego trip have any explainations?

The state line between IA and MO is pretty clear from a religious standpoint:


Well if we just went by demographics and voting patterns alone, Iowa would be a red state and Mississippi would be in play.

There must be some other factor into this one, perhaps Iowa isn't a big Evangelical state like Kansas or Nebraska. It also has more medium sized cities than Kansas or Nebraska.

Iowa has plenty of Evangelicals but it also has plenty of Illinois-style Catholics and Minnesota-style Lutherans.

True. The ELCA population in NE IA is a lot like MN, and is more Dem Leaning. NE IA and W WI are both more like MN. W IA is more like NE and KS.





WOW what an old thread, but i just realized that Hillary lost to John Edwards the United Methodist Church counties back in 2008. They were both members of that church.

And although im pretty sure that sharing the same religious branch wasn't the main reason, two days ago she won 81% of the United Methodist Church counties(Tied with one county).




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