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  Kiryas Joel swings D because Romney is too pro-Israel
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« on: December 25, 2012, 09:31:02 pm »

Orange County, NY cast 2871 blank ballots for President, 1943 in Monroe township.

11 precincts in Monroe cast more than 100 blank ballots.

Those precincts: 9, 10, 15, 16, 17, 20, 22, 27, 28, 29, and 31.

The results from those precincts

Romney 1872 (56%), Obama 1406 (42%), Goode 51, Stein 7, Johnson 5, Lindsay 2. Blank 1868

The only KJ precinct not listed, Precinct 14, where Romney won 40-31 with 26 blanks

Gillibrand 4770 (96%), Long 149 (4%), Clark 3, Edes 3, Mangelli 2. Blank 269

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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2012, 05:58:50 am »

Kiryas Joel has factionalism. And just as last time, the eternal minority faction voted for Obama. If their result was marginally stronger than last time, I would wager a guess the reasons have to do with KJ politics and nothing whatsoever with national politics or views on Israel.
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2012, 06:12:50 pm »

Kiryas Joel has factionalism. And just as last time, the eternal minority faction voted for Obama. If their result was marginally stronger than last time, I would wager a guess the reasons have to do with KJ politics and nothing whatsoever with national politics or views on Israel.

The 2008 results from KJ were 2757-199 for McCain. So marginal increase.

(the precincts tabulated: 9, 10, 14, 15, 16, 17, 20, 22, 27, 28, 29, 31)

McCain won 1460 votes on the Independence line and 1141 on the Republican line. 712 blank votes were cast.
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2012, 06:15:32 pm »

"We were unofficially told to vote for..."
Democracy Fail.
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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2012, 06:30:10 pm »

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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2012, 06:36:30 pm »

Where does he get the idea that a Romney win would have led to an increase in anti semitism?
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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2012, 11:27:15 pm »

Where does he get the idea that a Romney win would have led to an increase in anti semitism?

The idea is than Obama's supporters would have hated Jews if he lost because the PM of the main Jewish country endorsed Romney.
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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2012, 11:51:20 pm »

I find it really attractively quaint that there are still communities out there that speak Yiddish in their daily life.
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2012, 01:36:18 am »

Where does he get the idea that a Romney win would have led to an increase in anti semitism?

The idea is than Obama's supporters would have hated Jews if he lost because the PM of the main Jewish country endorsed Romney.

Yeah but he talks about 'bloodshed'. It's kind of creepy.

Besides, Obama supporters were mostly worried that Bibi was going to try and pull an attack on Iran before the election. He didn't. Hence the idea that a Obama loss would have been blamed on Bibi rather than Obama's poor debate performance, a return of the Bradley effect, or party ID weighting of polls (it's amazing how the world would be turned upside down had the opposite result occurred?), or the 7.9% unemployment rate, is grossly and outrageously off base.
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2012, 11:25:25 am »

Where does he get the idea that a Romney win would have led to an increase in anti semitism?

The idea is than Obama's supporters would have hated Jews if he lost because the PM of the main Jewish country endorsed Romney.

Yeah but he talks about 'bloodshed'. It's kind of creepy.


Well, I don't think than the ultra-orthodoxs leaders are totally conected with reality. Given than they live alone in a rural area, I suppose they are a bit afraid of people outside.
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