Walmart shutting down a store in Quebec on verge of unionizing

At my Wal Mart its mostly younger workers and older workers. They are there for some extra cash. Its not like they are down in the coalmines for eighteen hours a day, six days a week.
And the oldsters I see working there are usually happy and cracking jokes, its nice to see them, they do not whine at all.

Probably b/c those oldsters remember what a real job was like back when they were growing up: Work lasted as long as the sun was out, at 50 cents an hour. And, damned if you complained about it, either with fellow employees or random strangers.

No, back when people who are currently old were in their 'prime', unionization was at record high levels as a percentage of the work force, and wages and benefits were much, much better than now. It was the Post WW II boom, and redistribution was the name of the game.

So, you're saying that workers who made big from unionized income redistribution then are now forced to work for subsistence wages today in WalMart, or McDonalds, or wherever?

Coupled with the fact that those old people really do enjoy their time out in WalMart (working for 4 hour shifts at normal pay) makes that last post of yours truly incoherent.

It is only incoherent if you put words in my mouth. No, I was making the point that old people remember a previous era when jobs were better, and unions more prevalent, not the converse.

In fact I hardly ever see any old people or teenagers working in Walmart - it is mostly the 20 to 50 year old working poor. And I have never seen anything but misery in the eyes of a Walmart worker. A friend of mine used to call them (and anyone trapped in a subhuman existence) 'Potato People'.

But the whole thrust of this thread was old people, namely people near retirement or past it, working for what you think are low wages in a crappy job. I say that if the old people really do remember what life was like in unionized comfort back in the day, then why should they be so eager to (1) continue working at all, if they have the income to actually retire and (2) choose employment at a place as 'exploitative' as Wal Mart?

You don't need to go to a Wal Mart to see misery in the eyes of 20-50 year olds. Most porno theaters offer up far worse in the eyes of their customers.

I never said that workers at walmart were old. You did. What I was refuting was your claim that old people would see a $6.50/hr job as a good thing. Union jobs were paying that much an hour in the mid 1960's, when a typical house cost $15,000 or so!

As for porno viewers.. that's not misery you see, that's arousal. What're you doing in there looking into guys eyes anyway?

I guess that is one (among a great many) differences between you and me: I could care less whether I was paid 6.50 or 60.50 an hour, so long as I had a regular income and a way to maintain a way of life. Of course I'd try for the 60.60, but I seriously doubt Wal Mart labor is worth that much.

**And even in the 1960s, union labor was not worth 6.50 an hour. The result of that economic distribution was HS-manufactured factory drones working in noncompetitive industries. Note that the mass unemployment and economic stagnation of the late 1960s-1970s took place in regions that had the greatest level of unionization (western Ohio, Michigan, upstate NY).

And I always look into people's eyes, no matter who they are. But, for some reason, the people who exit porn theaters seem to avert theirs, probably from the sense of unquenchable shame on their part.

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