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« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2005, 07:05:02 PM »


A Republican could win DC?

See my post above. Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2005, 08:48:51 PM »

538 EVs for a Republican would be possible if you enter in a U.S. terroritory with a strong Republican military presence and give it 3 EVs (making the have 541 EVs overall)...like Midway or Guam or a fusion of a U.S. islands like we have with Hawaii...
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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2005, 02:15:13 PM »

If the Democrats nominated a admitted pedophile with stong ties to Bin Laden, then DC would be about a 50/50 proposition for the GOP candidate.

Baring something just about that extreme, the GOP candidate, no matter how good, would have a real hard time in DC.

ain't gonna happen

A very stong, moderate Dem against a scandal plagued GOP village idiot nominee might have a shot in Utah, Wyoming, etc... maybe....

If it goes 538 / 0 it will be a Dem.... but the odds are real long....
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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2005, 12:24:58 AM »

Yes...maybe Harry Reid/Harold Ford wins in '08 and is very popular and runs for reelection in '12 against a sacrificial lamb total moron
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« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2005, 02:00:28 AM »

The Requirements must be

1) Democrat is extremely popular
2) Republican is scandal-plagued, needs a pedophilic sex scandal, Watergate, Whitewater, Iran-Contra type thing combined.
3) Liberal turnout must be maximum.
4) Economy must suck
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« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2005, 02:10:51 AM »

If the Democrats nominated a admitted pedophile with stong ties to Bin Laden, then DC would be about a 50/50 proposition for the GOP candidate.

Baring something just about that extreme, the GOP candidate, no matter how good, would have a real hard time in DC.

ain't gonna happen

A very stong, moderate Dem against a scandal plagued GOP village idiot nominee might have a shot in Utah, Wyoming, etc... maybe....

If it goes 538 / 0 it will be a Dem.... but the odds are real long....

No, it would be a landslide.

People in DC have televisions. They just love the Democratic Party.
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« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2005, 07:09:46 AM »

Scenario:

Frist/Jeb Bush win in 2008, and immediately scandal after scandal on the Bushes and the Republicans break. We get kicked out of Iraq. In 2012, the stock market crashes, and there are massive job losses.

Frist/Jeb Bush run for re-election.

Reid / Bayh are the Democratic ticket. I think they could win all 538 in that scenario.
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« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2005, 09:03:32 AM »

Scenario:

Frist/Jeb Bush win in 2008, and immediately scandal after scandal on the Bushes and the Republicans break. We get kicked out of Iraq. In 2012, the stock market crashes, and there are massive job losses.

Frist/Jeb Bush run for re-election.

Reid / Bayh are the Democratic ticket. I think they could win all 538 in that scenario.

Sorry, but Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Nebraka, and probably Kansas, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Texas, and Alaska will go Republican under that scenario.
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« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2005, 11:21:48 AM »

Clinton was only a few points away from winning Texas.
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« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2005, 02:11:44 PM »

Either party can do it.

Remember: No Republican can win in the south, ever.

That was true, until it was not. 

Right now a Republican cannot because of DC and a Democrat has next to no chance because of Utah.  A future realignment can change that. 
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« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2005, 02:30:23 PM »

How would the Republicans become the party of cities? They've never been that, or at least, not since they adopted the laissez-faire side of economic issues.

Cities will always vote for the big government, more welfare party. Unless the Republicans head down that road -- as in, not just believing in big government, but believing in bigger government than the Democrats -- they're not going to win big cities.
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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2005, 04:21:33 PM »

Scenario:

Frist/Jeb Bush win in 2008, and immediately scandal after scandal on the Bushes and the Republicans break. We get kicked out of Iraq. In 2012, the stock market crashes, and there are massive job losses.

Frist/Jeb Bush run for re-election.

Reid / Bayh are the Democratic ticket. I think they could win all 538 in that scenario.

Sorry, but Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Nebraka, and probably Kansas, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Texas, and Alaska will go Republican under that scenario.

Oh yeah, Utah ignores all the scandals and votes for a Southerner instead of a conservative Mormom Democrat.
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« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2005, 04:57:21 PM »

Good point. Utah would go Democrat.

I think at least Alaska would still go Republican though.
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« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2005, 07:51:59 PM »

Either party can do it.

Remember: No Republican can win in the south, ever.

That was true, until it was not. 

Right now a Republican cannot because of DC and a Democrat has next to no chance because of Utah.  A future realignment can change that. 

I think they're talking about right now, not sometime in the future.
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« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2005, 07:53:49 PM »

Either party can do it.

Remember: No Republican can win in the south, ever.

That was true, until it was not. 

Right now a Republican cannot because of DC and a Democrat has next to no chance because of Utah.  A future realignment can change that. 

I think they're talking about right now, not sometime in the future.

Even in the future, it's pretty much impossible for a Republican to win DC. The demographics are too skewed... even after all the realigning elections, we've stayed on the right-wing side of economics for a while now.
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« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2005, 08:13:37 AM »

Only 26.63% of Idaho is Mormon or belong to the Church of Latter-Day Saints. Although it has the second largest Mormon population outside of Utah Mormons in Idaho do not comprise a majority of the population. Wyoming is the only other state in which over 10% of the population is Mormon, 10.10%. To call these two states part of the Mormon Triangle would be like calling Pennsylvania, New York and Massachusetts the Catholic Triangle, or Catholic Trio. It doesn't really describe the demographics of each individual state.

Well, if 25% are solid Republicans Democrats have to win the rest of the demographic by a 2-1 margin to tie, in an environment that's still hostile. It's reasonable to call it a mormon state in political terms, I'd say.

It ain't likely to happen, but if the GOP nominated someone who turned out to have practiced as an abortion doctor while the economy crashes and there was a good moderate Democrat, perhaps a mormon like Reid...then things might happen.
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« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2005, 07:29:25 AM »

538 EVs for a Republican would be possible if you enter in a U.S. terroritory with a strong Republican military presence and give it 3 EVs (making the have 541 EVs overall)...like Midway or Guam or a fusion of a U.S. islands like we have with Hawaii...

Note the title ALL 538 evs.
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« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2005, 08:03:18 PM »

Either party can do it.

Remember: No Republican can win in the south, ever.

That was true, until it was not. 

Right now a Republican cannot because of DC and a Democrat has next to no chance because of Utah.  A future realignment can change that. 

These trends are 100% reliable, most of the time, unless they're not....

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