Roemer's parting remarks...

[Keystone Phil]

yeah, like there's any candidate you would've liked.

There's nothing wrong with Dean. He is not a far leftist. Anyone who's actually bothered to look at his record can testify to that. He's actually to right of Kerry, who's fine for more than 48% of Americans.

I don't want to like the DNC chair. I'm just talking about what they should do, since of course I'm not worried about them hearing what I say or, even if they did, caring.

Dean is not a far leftist. That isn't the problem with him at all-- actually of the Democratic options last cycle I might have disliked him the least. The problem with him is that his judgement in hiring staff appears questionable and he has demonstrated no campaign organizational skills. Worse, his fundraising experience was mostly with small donors, and the Democratic Party also needs labor, corporate, PAC etc. money.

He also is somewhat abrasive, which is basically the opposite of what you want. You want a schmoozer like McAuliffe, except one with a better sense of the political big picture. There Dean probably has as good an idea as anybody; he slipped with the confederate flag remark, but that showed he understands the Democrat's structural disadvantage.

I also suspect his motives.

"he has demonstrated no campaign organizational skills"

Sorry but I disagree. Dean started at 0. He climbed and became first in polls. His fundraising was exceptional. I strongly believe that without the undemocratic caucus of Iowa, he would have gained the NH primary and the dem race.

After the scream and the crash, he founded the DFA organization with success if you consider the challenge.

His ability to take the chairmanship of the dem party is a proof that this guy knows his job.

Last but not least, the "50 states" strategy seems to me the best and to take Gingrich like example is good too.

I also like Dean focusing on the local level as well.  One thing the Democrats do locally is concede local races such a the State Rep candidacies because the incumbent is entrenched and "likeable".  I know Keystone will disagee with me, but people like Perzel, Kenney, O'Brien, and yes even Taylor need to be challenged EVERY year and have a legit one at that.  We can't just say "he's a neighborhood guy, let him go" anymore.  I once thought some of theese entrenched GOPers should not be bothered with until their retirements, but a lot is at stake here such a Congressional gerrymandering, et al.  Yes KP, I've changed my mind on this.  At least at the local level where I am this guilt tripping the GOP uses needs to come to an end and these 20+ year Republican incumbents need to be challenged.       

I don't want to make this into a PA debate (and you accuse me of bringing it up all the time?).

Have challengers for Perzel, O'Brien and Taylor. It's makes it more fun to watch. You do know though that they would get crushed everytime, right? 25-30% is the best a Dem can do against Perzel. Any Dem would be lucky to reach 20% against O'Brien. Taylor's opponent would also get beat badly. Winning might not be your point but I just wanted to inform you (if you really do think these people can get rid of Perzel, O'Brien and Taylor, that you are wrong).

[Keystone Phil]

I don't want to make this into a PA debate (and you accuse me of bringing it up all the time?).

Have challengers for Perzel, O'Brien and Taylor. It's makes it more fun to watch. You do know though that they would get crushed everytime, right? 25-30% is the best a Dem can do against Perzel. Any Dem would be lucky to reach 20% against O'Brien. Taylor's opponent would also get beat badly. Winning might not be your point but I just wanted to inform you (if you really do think these people can get rid of Perzel, O'Brien and Taylor, that you are wrong).

Theres still a pretty good strategy to running Democrats against strong Republican opponents.  Even if the Democrat loses by 80%,  it is still good to get the Democratic message out there because eventually that seat will be open and it will give the next Democrat a better chance at picking up that seat.

I understand that.