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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
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« on: November 20, 2012, 05:16:58 PM »

Dean Chambers, the creator of the famous Unskewed Polls website, is at it again. This time he claims Obama won 4 states and the election, through voter fraud.
http://www.barackofraudo.com/
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2012, 05:22:26 PM »

Barack Ofraudo? Nice name.
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2012, 05:30:06 PM »

Didn't he admit he was wrong post-election?

Guess revenue from site traffic beats integrity, eh?
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2012, 05:33:43 PM »

I wonder how much traction the "Obama stole the election" thing will get. Hannity has ran some segments on this.  It is the new birther movement.
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2012, 05:37:35 PM »

I wonder how much traction the "Obama stole the election" thing will get. Hannity has ran some segments on this.  It is the new birther movement.
It already has. South Park ran an episode in which Obama paid the Chinese to steal the election for him, in exchange for them taking Star Wars to China to keep Disney from f$cking it up. Morgan Freeman also apparently gains a freckle for everything he explains.
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2012, 06:15:45 PM »

Don't forget that the Harlem Globetrotters were going from town to town in rural Maine throwing that state to Obama too.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2012, 07:26:05 PM »

All he did is taking the 4 closest states that put Obama over 270 (Colorado's victory percentage margin just exceeded Pennsylvania's) and find whatever rationale he can to cry fraud for each of them.

It must be pointed out that all four of these "Obama Fraud" states have Republican governors, so they and their appointed secretaries of state must be involved in the conspiracy to get Obama reelected! Ooo!

It saddens me to think that there are plenty of good but grossly ill-informed fellow Americans who would lap up anything this troll barfs out.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2012, 03:31:15 AM »

They don't even bother proving these claims, as their only "evidence" is that Obama won some urban areas with a higher margin than he won statewide.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2012, 07:10:18 AM »

Proof: Obama got more than 90% of the vote in some precincts of Cuyahoga and Philadelphia. And the last results to come in in VA were from blue (red here) counties in the NorthEast.

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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2012, 07:24:57 AM »

I like how he says that VA was a state Obama won through fraud, and then on the Virginia page he says, "Those eight areas are the ones where vote fraud was most likely and they will be the focus of efforts to find any reports and evidence of vote fraud in the state."

At least in Pennsylvania he has the 59 precincts claim or whatever (which still doesn't hold much water, but it's better than labelling a state won through fraud without ANY evidence).
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2012, 07:25:16 AM »

I was hoping some of these people would like to live in the real world... but then I realized its much more profitable not to.
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2012, 07:32:09 AM »

Oh dear.

Whatever happened to weeding out the crazies?
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2012, 12:09:20 PM »

Let's apply this guy's logic in Philadephia. He claims that Obama's 287,865 victory margin in the state all came from vote fraud there. The city was:

Obama 559,180
Romney 91,953

So subtract the "fraudulent" votes and we get:

Obama 271,315
Romney 91,953

...that gives Obama less than 75%. That's worse than the Democratic candidate for Governor in 2010 who lost by almost 9 points. Certainly more implausible than the rather baseless claims of fraud he has, he doesn't provide even a single example of vote fraud.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2012, 12:19:54 PM »

Pretty sure the subject field of this post helps explain the real issue here.
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2012, 12:35:11 PM »
« Edited: November 21, 2012, 12:37:49 PM by Idaho Blue Dog Dem »

meh who knows, i know a friend who says this will be out last election and says that America will become a Dictatorship , and hes using a flag as his profile pic i've seen stuff like this before
and he says he wont move to canada
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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2012, 01:55:03 PM »

So precincts that used to go 500 to 2 went 500 to 0 instead. So this is fraud, and they really should be considered 0 to 0.

Lol.
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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2012, 04:18:58 PM »

"My prediction wasn't wrong, the results were wrong."
Ooh, classy.
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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2012, 07:01:14 AM »

"My prediction wasn't wrong, the results were wrong."
Ooh, classy.

Sounds rather Orwellian to me.
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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2012, 07:16:55 AM »

Guys, I fear Illinois was stolen too. Sad

http://www.eslbec.org/11_2012/accum.html
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2012, 08:01:08 AM »


Vermont might be too, I think... Burlington (Chittenden 6-3) had 2839 votes for O'Fraudo and 264 votes for Saint Mittens; and given that white people never vote for the black muslim socialist, there must have been a bunch of black voters from Chicago Machine Politics who invaded Burlington! That and those Buddhists...
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2012, 08:25:36 AM »

It's certainly plausible. Does anyone really think that these areas went 100% for Obama? If you look at the exit polls, you see actual self-identified liberals who voted for Romney and conservatives who voted for Obama. And yet these areas are 100% unified?

Even if it's not literal fraud, it's defacto fraud. Because the only explanation for such overwhelming homogeneity in the vote, other then fraud, is tribal bloc voting that is fundamentally at odds with democracy.
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2012, 08:34:16 AM »

It's certainly plausible. Does anyone really think that these areas went 100% for Obama? If you look at the exit polls, you see actual self-identified liberals who voted for Romney and conservatives who voted for Obama. And yet these areas are 100% unified?

Even if it's not literal fraud, it's defacto fraud. Because the only explanation for such overwhelming homogeneity in the vote, other then fraud, is tribal bloc voting that is fundamentally at odds with democracy.

I'm sure you have no problem with King County, TX &ilk.
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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2012, 09:14:22 AM »

It's certainly plausible. Does anyone really think that these areas went 100% for Obama? If you look at the exit polls, you see actual self-identified liberals who voted for Romney and conservatives who voted for Obama. And yet these areas are 100% unified?

Even if it's not literal fraud, it's defacto fraud. Because the only explanation for such overwhelming homogeneity in the vote, other then fraud, is tribal bloc voting that is fundamentally at odds with democracy.

Yes, I am quite confident Obama got 100% in various precincts.

The exit poll results aren't uniform everywhere. McCain got over 20% of liberals in Arkansas, and Romney probably got a similar number in West Virginia. Poor, overwhelmingly African-American inner city areas have been hardcore Democratic since FDR, and almost any other Democrat, white or black, would have gotten 100% in at least some precincts in Chicago and Philly.
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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2012, 09:20:59 AM »


Vermont might be too, I think... Burlington (Chittenden 6-3) had 2839 votes for O'Fraudo and 264 votes for Saint Mittens; and given that white people never vote for the black muslim socialist, there must have been a bunch of black voters from Chicago Machine Politics who invaded Burlington! That and those Buddhists...

Terrible Sad

Is a fair election to much to ask for?
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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2012, 09:46:56 AM »
« Edited: November 24, 2012, 10:13:54 AM by Badger »

It's certainly plausible. Does anyone really think that these areas went 100% for Obama? If you look at the exit polls, you see actual self-identified liberals who voted for Romney and conservatives who voted for Obama. And yet these areas are 100% unified?

Even if it's not literal fraud, it's defacto fraud. Because the only explanation for such overwhelming homogeneity in the vote, other then fraud, is tribal bloc voting that is fundamentally at odds with democracy.

"Tribal" politics, huh? How subtle.
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