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« on: January 26, 2013, 02:01:15 AM »

did it historically have a reputation of being one of the more moderate (or least reactionary) states? If I recall, it was one of the few southern states that were two party and in the 70s and 80s went back and forth between electing D and R senators while the rest of the south was very liberal. The legislature also nearly went R in 1972 (the Rs had a 51-49 majority). The parties if I recall were more midwestern in ideology. The republicans were fairly conservative but surprisingly moderate by southern standards (like Howard Baker) and the democrats were also conservative but with a populistic/slightly liberal streak (think Kefauver, Sasser, Gore).

Now the state really is indistinguishable from the rest of the south
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2013, 02:23:24 AM »

Now the state really is indistinguishable from the rest of the south

I think there is a sane Governor and two sane Senators who disprove this accusation Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2013, 02:26:34 PM »

If Tennessee was really that liberal, why did it get a right-to-scab law so early?
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2013, 02:28:49 PM »

Tennessee Republicans are divided between the "old guard" in Eastern Tennessee, who are more moderate, and the more reactionary conservatives further west (most of whom are former Democrats or the children of former Democrats).
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2013, 02:52:37 PM »

If Tennessee was really that liberal, why did it get a right-to-scab law so early?

this is in comparison to the rest of the south.
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2013, 03:04:53 PM »

Tennessee Republicans are divided between the "old guard" in Eastern Tennessee, who are more moderate, and the more reactionary conservatives further west (most of whom are former Democrats or the children of former Democrats).

Eastern TN Republicans are moderate?

Phil Roe has a lifetime rating of 92 from the American Conservative Union, but I suppose that makes him a "moderate" in today's Republican Party.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2013, 03:49:52 PM »

They were, at least, especially compared to the Deep Southern Republicans post-CRA. Look at Baker, Alexander, Corker, etc (the latter two are fairly right-wing but clearly to the left of the average Southern Republican in Congress).
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2013, 04:00:47 PM »

They were, at least, especially compared to the Deep Southern Republicans post-CRA. Look at Baker, Alexander, Corker, etc (the latter two are fairly right-wing but clearly to the left of the average Southern Republican in Congress).

I'm sure the old-school East Tennessee Republicans (Reece, Baker, Quillen) would be labeled RINO too, despite being to the right of the average New England Republicans of their period.

BTW, what does CRA stand for?

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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2013, 04:19:26 PM »

Tennessee Republicans are divided between the "old guard" in Eastern Tennessee, who are more moderate, and the more reactionary conservatives further west (most of whom are former Democrats or the children of former Democrats).

Eastern TN Republicans are moderate?

Phil Roe has a lifetime rating of 92 from the American Conservative Union, but I suppose that makes him a "moderate" in today's Republican Party.

Well historically, the Democrats adapted to a Republican presence in the legislature going all the way back to the 19th century, so the parties were more amicable than in the rest of the South where it was possible to stamp out the GOP early on.  

In 20th century TN,the Democrats were also more in line with the national party- think Estes Kefauver and the Gores.  It seems that black people had more civil rights and opportunities earlier on than elsewhere.  I know that in Memphis, voting was race-neutral surprisingly early on.  Historically Appalachia was more liberal (even on civil rights issues) than places like NC and VA so there has been a reversal and it has happened since Clinton.  
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2013, 05:43:42 PM »

They were, at least, especially compared to the Deep Southern Republicans post-CRA. Look at Baker, Alexander, Corker, etc (the latter two are fairly right-wing but clearly to the left of the average Southern Republican in Congress).

I'm sure the old-school East Tennessee Republicans (Reece, Baker, Quillen) would be labeled RINO too, despite being to the right of the average New England Republicans of their period.

BTW, what does CRA stand for?



Civil Rights Act (specifically the 1964 one)
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