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Goldwater
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« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2017, 04:50:10 PM »

Did someone seriously just unironically cite a Political Compass chart?

LMAO

If by "just" you mean 4 and half years ago, then yeah.

Well the PC charts were just as much nonsense back then too.

...Yeah, you completely missed my point. Tongue
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« Reply #51 on: June 02, 2017, 06:14:49 PM »

You're on fire with the great posts, Goldwater.

I fell in to a burnin' ring of fire
I went down, down, down
And the flames went higher
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« Reply #52 on: June 02, 2017, 08:58:38 PM »

We went through the looking glass and found out most of the moderates were really extremists of an ideology Americans call "moderate" and many of the extremists were actually rather moderate.
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« Reply #53 on: June 05, 2017, 01:01:59 AM »


Yeah I'd ask the same thing about Bernie.
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« Reply #54 on: June 05, 2017, 05:26:29 AM »

Yeah, LBJ was a left-liberal not a moderate. Like Obama, JFK or FDR. You can count Billy and Truman as moderate liberals.

As already pointed out, most moderates are now in the Democratic Party since the GOP was sadly taken over by the religious right, science deniers, tea-party hacks and hardcore neocons. And now by nationalist right-wing populists and bigots alà Bannon. The GOP moderates remain at the state and local levels in more liberal states to be competitive. See Charlie Baker, Larry Logan or Arnold Schwarzenegger. They are definitely moderates.
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« Reply #55 on: June 05, 2017, 08:30:12 PM »

Yeah, LBJ was a left-liberal not a moderate. Like Obama, JFK or FDR. You can count Billy and Truman as moderate liberals.

As already pointed out, most moderates are now in the Democratic Party since the GOP was sadly taken over by the religious right, science deniers, tea-party hacks and hardcore neocons. And now by nationalist right-wing populists and bigots alà Bannon. The GOP moderates remain at the state and local levels in more liberal states to be competitive. See Charlie Baker, Larry Logan or Arnold Schwarzenegger. They are definitely moderates.

Democratic Governors who are moderate:
John Bel Edwards, Jim Justice

Republican Governors who are moderate:
Charlie Baker, Brian Sandoval, Larry Hogan, John Kasich, Phil Scott, Chris Sununu, Bruce Rauner,, Chris Christie(?)
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« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2017, 10:46:12 PM »

Here is a list of most of the current Republicans in Congress who I am comfortable describing as moderate.
Senators: Susan Collins, John Hoeven, Lisa Murkowski, Lamar Alexander, Shelley Capito, Thad Cochran.
Representatives: Don Young, David Valadao, Vern Buchanan, Mario Diaz-Balart, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Rodney Davis, Adam Kinzinger, Fred Upton, Mark Amodei, Frank LoBiondo, Christopher Smith, Leonard Lance, Rodney Freylinghuysen, Peter King, Tom Reed, Mike Turner, David Joyce, Steve Stivers, James Renacci, Greg Walden, Mike Kelly, Glenn Thompson, Patrick Meehan, Tom Marino, Lou Barletta, Charlie Dent, Tim Murphy, Jaime Herrera Beutler, Dave Reichert.

If I gave myself some more time, I could think of a few more.
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« Reply #57 on: June 17, 2017, 04:36:02 PM »

Here is a list of most of the current Republicans in Congress who I am comfortable describing as moderate.
Senators: Susan Collins, John Hoeven, Lisa Murkowski, Lamar Alexander, Shelley Capito, Thad Cochran.
Representatives: Don Young, David Valadao, Vern Buchanan, Mario Diaz-Balart, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Rodney Davis, Adam Kinzinger, Fred Upton, Mark Amodei, Frank LoBiondo, Christopher Smith, Leonard Lance, Rodney Freylinghuysen, Peter King, Tom Reed, Mike Turner, David Joyce, Steve Stivers, James Renacci, Greg Walden, Mike Kelly, Glenn Thompson, Patrick Meehan, Tom Marino, Lou Barletta, Charlie Dent, Tim Murphy, Jaime Herrera Beutler, Dave Reichert.

If I gave myself some more time, I could think of a few more.

The fact of the matter is there are more Republican moderates in the House than Democratic moderates.
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« Reply #58 on: June 27, 2017, 03:05:12 PM »

Yeah, LBJ was a left-liberal not a moderate. Like Obama, JFK or FDR. You can count Billy and Truman as moderate liberals.

As already pointed out, most moderates are now in the Democratic Party since the GOP was sadly taken over by the religious right, science deniers, tea-party hacks and hardcore neocons. And now by nationalist right-wing populists and bigots alà Bannon. The GOP moderates remain at the state and local levels in more liberal states to be competitive. See Charlie Baker, Larry Logan or Arnold Schwarzenegger. They are definitely moderates.

Democratic Governors who are moderate:
John Bel Edwards, Jim Justice

Republican Governors who are moderate:
Charlie Baker, Brian Sandoval, Larry Hogan, John Kasich, Phil Scott, Chris Sununu, Bruce Rauner,, Chris Christie(?)

I would actually add Snyder to that list. He's definitely closer to the center than the State GOP.
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« Reply #59 on: June 27, 2017, 04:27:02 PM »

Well, for that matter, Bullock, J. Brown, and B. Walker are all more moderate than Snyder. Carney, Cuomo, and Cooper, as well as Snyder, Haslam, and Hutchinson are all right on the border of being moderates.
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