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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: November 11, 2012, 08:04:07 PM »

Guam would really like to be a state, so they tend to suck up to the party in power in hopes that will help it with that and with getting more money from Washington.  The latter maybe, but Guam's too small.  Even combined with the Northern Marianas, they still have a little less than 30% of a CD worth of population.  Even if the Marshalls, Micronesia and Palau joined in, the population of a state of Pacifica would only be about 60% of a CD.  Despite all that, if it were not for the Senate, I think Guam would be able to get Statehood, but as is, it's impossible.
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2012, 11:00:51 AM »

Would the state 'Pacifica' even be that realistic of a proposition.  I don't know how the residents of these territories would feel about being lumped together like that.

Doubtful they would want to be lumped together, since with the exception of the Northern Marianas, the former Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands chose to head off in the direction of independence once the trust territory was ended.  I'm just saying that a Pacifica as I outlined is likely the only way of Guam has of ever becoming a State or a portion of a State, and even then, that would likely happen only if the Senate were eliminated or its power was severely curtailed.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2012, 09:38:46 PM »

Guam is so far away from Hawaii it's not even funny.

True, but that's not necessarily a bar, unless the Guamanians think it is.

There's a twenty hour difference between Guam and Hawaii.  If they were all one state, the polls in Guam would be closed and counted even before the polls in Hawaii.
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2012, 11:04:56 AM »

Just have Hawaii (and all the rest of the Pacific, as it makes so much sense in every remaining case except Hawaii and Isla de Pascua that it's eventual happening is pretty much inevitable) cross the Date Line.


Ideally the date line should be in the Atlantic.
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