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« on: November 08, 2012, 04:21:27 AM »
Kerry wins Ohio and narrowly beats Bush in 2004. President Kerry withdraws from Iraq (still a solid presence in Afghanistan) and Hurricane Katrina is handled better. Besides that, everything else happens in real life (Economy).

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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2012, 03:08:35 PM »
No incumbent could survive the type of economical crash that occurred.

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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2012, 09:35:02 PM »
Slumber would occur, for sure.
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2012, 09:36:36 PM »
338-200
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2012, 09:49:55 PM »
Large landslide loss for Kerry
366:R
172:D
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2012, 09:04:02 AM »
Romney/Pawlenty: 370 (54.8%)
Kerry/Edwards: 168 (43.6%)

(2012) Option 1: Economy does not improve
Clinton/Warner: 348 (52.0%)
Romney/Pawlenty: 190 (46.2%)

(2012) Option 2: Economy Improves
Romney/Pawlenty: 401 (55.8%)
Schweitzer/Gregoire: 137 (42.7%)
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2012, 11:14:46 AM »


Kerry: 222
Romney: 316
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2012, 11:31:51 AM »
« Edited: November 14, 2012, 11:34:33 AM by True Conservative »
Yuck. I would write-in Calvin Coolidge.

Mitt Romney wins, of course.



Romney 348, Kerry 190
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2012, 06:30:10 PM »
Romney wins along the lines of these maps, but he picks Paul Ryan for VP.  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2013, 01:46:16 PM »
Just a heads-up, but the map reading 370-168, did a EV calculator check, it should be 375-163 instead.
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2013, 05:27:43 PM »
Romney/Lieberman: 375
Kerry/Edwards: 163
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2013, 06:51:40 PM »
I dunno, we got to see Romney run against another Democrat with a poor economic record, and look how that turned out...
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2013, 06:02:29 PM »
Quote from: LINCOLN REPUBLICAN on November 18, 2012, 06:30:10 PM
Romney wins along the lines of these maps, but he picks Paul Ryan for VP.  Smiley

In 2008? I don't think so
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2013, 10:08:44 PM »
Romney/McCain - 343
Kerry/Edwards - 195
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2013, 09:58:09 PM »
Kerry being an incumbent would make the economy hurt him even worse than it hurt McCain. On the other hand, there would be some goodwill from ending the war that would keep him out of Hoover/Carter territory.  So we have a reverse 2008 in the EC that is more extreme in the PV:

2008



Romney/McCain 372 EV 53.9%
Kerry/Edwards  166 EV 45.0%

2012 with economy as IRL


Hillary Clinton/Sherrod Brown 275 EV 48.8%
Romney/McCain 263 EV 49.2%

The Democratic gains in the West never materialize, but Romney becomes the second Republican in a row to lose because of Ohio.  With Romney unable to motivate historic base turnout, the PV is closer than IRL.  The electoral college is abolished in 2016 after picking the wrong winner in 3 of the past 4 elections. 


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