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« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2012, 03:59:54 AM »

What marvelous news.  Smiley
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« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2012, 06:04:00 AM »

Eh, I still think there's a sneaky path for Mitt through Wisconsin.

Only one he has.  He's aware of this. 

Yeah but that path can't work if he loses both Ohio and Virginia, right?
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« Reply #52 on: October 29, 2012, 06:05:37 AM »

Eh, I still think there's a sneaky path for Mitt through Wisconsin.

Only one he has.  He's aware of this. 

Yeah but that path can't work if he loses both Ohio and Virginia, right?

WI doesn't work without NV , CO, IA and VA right?
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« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2012, 06:10:38 AM »

Eh, I still think there's a sneaky path for Mitt through Wisconsin.

Only one he has.  He's aware of this. 

Yeah but that path can't work if he loses both Ohio and Virginia, right?

WI doesn't work without NV , CO, IA and VA right?

No, that's not right.  If Romney wins WI but loses OH, then he also has to win CO and VA, but then only needs one out of three among IA, NH, and NV.  Or alternately, if Romney loses both OH and WI, he'd need to win all of CO, VA, IA, and NV just to tie (and presumably win in the House of Representatives), plus NH if he wants to win without tying.
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« Reply #54 on: October 29, 2012, 06:11:06 AM »

Eh, I still think there's a sneaky path for Mitt through Wisconsin.

Only one he has.  He's aware of this. 

Yeah but that path can't work if he loses both Ohio and Virginia, right?

WI doesn't work without NV , CO, IA and VA right?

No, he doesn't need Nevada if he wins Wisconsin:



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« Reply #55 on: October 29, 2012, 06:30:42 AM »

If Ohio and Virginia both go for Obama, Romney must sweep the other seven battleground states. Wisconsin is only a must-win for Romney if Obama wins Ohio plus any of the 6+EV battlegrounds. In other words, if Obama wins OH+NV or OH+IA (the next smallest battlegrounds after NH), Romney absolutely must win WI. I'm fairly certain NH is irrelevant as to the winner if Obama wins OH (unless you bring ME-02 or something else new into the equation).
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« Reply #56 on: October 29, 2012, 01:42:09 PM »

Eh, I still think there's a sneaky path for Mitt through Wisconsin.

Only one he has.  He's aware of this. 

Yeah but that path can't work if he loses both Ohio and Virginia, right?

WI doesn't work without NV , CO, IA and VA right?

No, that's not right.  If Romney wins WI but loses OH, then he also has to win CO and VA, but then only needs one out of three among IA, NH, and NV.  Or alternately, if Romney loses both OH and WI, he'd need to win all of CO, VA, IA, and NV just to tie (and presumably win in the House of Representatives), plus NH if he wants to win without tying.

The only state on this list I'm fairly confident of Obama carrying is NV. So to put it another way, Romney HAS to carry OH or WI to win.

And the latter requires VA & CO, plus either IA or NH
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« Reply #57 on: October 29, 2012, 01:54:15 PM »

Eh, I still think there's a sneaky path for Mitt through Wisconsin.

Only one he has.  He's aware of this. 

Yeah but that path can't work if he loses both Ohio and Virginia, right?

WI doesn't work without NV , CO, IA and VA right?

No, that's not right.  If Romney wins WI but loses OH, then he also has to win CO and VA, but then only needs one out of three among IA, NH, and NV.  Or alternately, if Romney loses both OH and WI, he'd need to win all of CO, VA, IA, and NV just to tie (and presumably win in the House of Representatives), plus NH if he wants to win without tying.

The only state on this list I'm fairly confident of Obama carrying is NV. So to put it another way, Romney HAS to carry OH or WI to win.

And the latter requires VA & CO, plus either IA or NH

Yes, we know, we know, Badger. Rub it in baby. Pity that the LDS fertility rate is not up around 15 or so, so that Utah gained 3 more electoral votes, rather than just one. Or something like that. Tongue
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« Reply #58 on: October 29, 2012, 02:30:11 PM »

If I were all the Republican trolls and the like here, I would stock up on some good whiskey like I have for election night. Mittens isn't winning this thing, and if he does I will gladly leave the forum forever, so you may as well prepare for another 4 years of Obama.

You're one of the guys I'm most sorry for... your cause deserves better.

How long before he's accused of being a RINO?

Me or Mittens? I'm called a RINO every day of my life Tongue

Mittens will probably be labeled as one when he does lose, and the tea party will likely try to tighten their grip on the party, at which point I leave the GOP once and for all.

They have taken out good Republicans like Lugar and Castle for nuts. I hope we lose Indiana. I know that sounds bad, but the crazies don't need to be anywhere near Washington.

What bothers me most are the young kids who are growing up in this environment now. They will either adopt the views of the crazies or see the Democrats as the only sane alternative, and having a one party state is never good for anyone.
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« Reply #59 on: October 29, 2012, 02:34:29 PM »

Dukie, you need to break out the whiskey now. That was the most depressing dirge that I have read in some time.  No new gf yet or something?
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« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2012, 02:36:58 PM »

Mittens will probably be labeled as one when he does lose, and the tea party will likely try to tighten their grip on the party, at which point I leave the GOP once and for all.

They have taken out good Republicans like Lugar and Castle for nuts. I hope we lose Indiana. I know that sounds bad, but the crazies don't need to be anywhere near Washington.

What bothers me most are the young kids who are growing up in this environment now. They will either adopt the views of the crazies or see the Democrats as the only sane alternative, and having a one party state is never good for anyone.

Good man, good man.  You remind me so much of my father, politically.
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« Reply #61 on: October 29, 2012, 02:37:42 PM »

Dukie, you need to break out the whiskey now. That was the most depressing dirge that I have read in some time.  No new gf yet or something?

Con Law, Federal Income tax law, and criminal law are all I have in my dating life at the moment. The law is my new lover, and she is much colder than my last. Tongue
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« Reply #62 on: October 29, 2012, 02:44:34 PM »

Dukie, you need to break out the whiskey now. That was the most depressing dirge that I have read in some time.  No new gf yet or something?

Con Law, Federal Income tax law, and criminal law are all I have in my dating life at the moment. The law is my new lover, and she is much colder than my last. Tongue

Sounds like suicide watch time. Have you learned the difference in the Tax Code between "realization" and "recognition" yet?  Expert periodic pop quizzes from me by the way. Tongue
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« Reply #63 on: October 29, 2012, 03:09:01 PM »

Dukie, you need to break out the whiskey now. That was the most depressing dirge that I have read in some time.  No new gf yet or something?

Con Law, Federal Income tax law, and criminal law are all I have in my dating life at the moment. The law is my new lover, and she is much colder than my last. Tongue

Sounds like suicide watch time. Have you learned the difference in the Tax Code between "realization" and "recognition" yet?  Expert periodic pop quizzes from me by the way. Tongue

Yes... section 1001 is my new best friend Tongue

And tax law is the reason I occasionally go on these diatribes, but I look forward to your quizzes all the same.
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« Reply #64 on: October 29, 2012, 05:30:46 PM »

Eh, I still think there's a sneaky path for Mitt through Wisconsin.

Only one he has.  He's aware of this. 

Yeah but that path can't work if he loses both Ohio and Virginia, right?

WI doesn't work without NV , CO, IA and VA right?

No, that's not right.  If Romney wins WI but loses OH, then he also has to win CO and VA, but then only needs one out of three among IA, NH, and NV.  Or alternately, if Romney loses both OH and WI, he'd need to win all of CO, VA, IA, and NV just to tie (and presumably win in the House of Representatives), plus NH if he wants to win without tying.

The only state on this list I'm fairly confident of Obama carrying is NV. So to put it another way, Romney HAS to carry OH or WI to win.

And the latter requires VA & CO, plus either IA or NH

Yes, we know, we know, Badger. Rub it in baby. Pity that the LDS fertility rate is not up around 15 or so, so that Utah gained 3 more electoral votes, rather than just one. Or something like that. Tongue


Hey, just calling it as I see it. There are more than enough cheerleaders on both sides on this board.

Besides, other than NV, I'm not sure there's a state on that list Romney can't realistically win. That includes OH, though that's the second least likely on the list, IMO.

Regardless, if Romnney can carry WI, he could realistically thread the needle with those other necessary states too.
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