OH: Public Policy Polling: Obama up 51-47

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Lol, Again better hope you get that D+8 turnout.  Sure aren't any signs out there that you are.  Remember all the hope you're being given by these polls with Samples that "don't matter". 

PPP continues to be way out there, obviously biased.  They are way off compared to everyone else on independents, maybe they call different independents.

Jesus, are you serious right now?

[Cliffy]

I'm serious you guys are getting all fired up about a partisan hack pollster...  that's hired by kos, hcan, seiu, etc..... 

not too mention they bring another poll that is off by more than 50% in the early voting, they have zero credibility except with the far left.  For some reason you guys don't understand that. 

At least they are consistent. 

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

I'm serious you guys are getting all fired up about a partisan hack pollster...  that's hired by kos, hcan, seiu, etc..... 

not too mention they bring another poll that is off by more than 50% in the early voting, they have zero credibility except with the far left.  For some reason you guys don't understand that. 

At least they are consistent. 

When PPP nails Ohio, will you at least admit it?

[Miles]

I'm serious you guys are getting all fired up about a partisan hack pollster...  that's hired by kos, hcan, seiu, etc.....  

So Rasmussen was hired by Fox and the Bush campaign. Does that mean Rasmussen is a right-wing hack pollster?

I also guess its worth saying that PPP underestimated Obama in OH during 2008/ 

[Cliffy]

The bottom line to all of their polls is if Obama get's better turnout than 08, he will squeak out a win maybe.  That should be very comforting to you.....

[Cliffy]

I'm serious you guys are getting all fired up about a partisan hack pollster...  that's hired by kos, hcan, seiu, etc..... 

not too mention they bring another poll that is off by more than 50% in the early voting, they have zero credibility except with the far left.  For some reason you guys don't understand that. 

At least they are consistent. 

When PPP nails Ohio, will you at least admit it?

I'm sure they will in the future if they are around after this.  I've said it before and I'll keep saying it if you get as good or better turnout than 08 you'll probably win.  Nothing suggests you guys will come close to that.  You know you won't get D+8 or greater turnout in Ohio.  If you think you will good luck. 

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

I'm serious you guys are getting all fired up about a partisan hack pollster...  that's hired by kos, hcan, seiu, etc..... 

not too mention they bring another poll that is off by more than 50% in the early voting, they have zero credibility except with the far left.  For some reason you guys don't understand that. 

At least they are consistent. 

When PPP nails Ohio, will you at least admit it?

I'm sure they will in the future if they are around after this.  I've said it before and I'll keep saying it if you get as good or better turnout than 08 you'll probably win.  Nothing suggests you guys will come close to that.  You know you won't get D+8 or greater turnout in Ohio.  If you think you will good luck. 

So, when we are right, we aren't right.  Awesome, Cliffy, you are truly a gem on this board. 

[Seriously?]

I'm serious you guys are getting all fired up about a partisan hack pollster...  that's hired by kos, hcan, seiu, etc..... 

not too mention they bring another poll that is off by more than 50% in the early voting, they have zero credibility except with the far left.  For some reason you guys don't understand that. 

At least they are consistent. 

When PPP nails Ohio, will you at least admit it?

PPP is not nailing Ohio. Not with a poll that has a bigger turnout of Democrats than '08 when the demographic shift in the state isn't favorable for Democrats -- in a state where the sitting President has declared war on the livelihoods of many voters in the Southeast quadrant of the state.

Further, the suggested self-identification breakdown of the electorate from multiple pollsters claims that this will NOT be a net Democrat ID partisan election where Republicans should see a +7 or +8 shift. But through PPP's magic special sauce, Obama voters magically self identify MORE with the sitting President's party.

Even if you want to argue the shift is R+2 or R+3, it's R+ something.

Ohio doesn't normally buck trends like that and go the other way. It's usually a bellwether.

Not to say that Romney can't lose Ohio, but I'd be shocked if you saw the same +4 or +5 pro-Obama result that you did in 2008. I'd bet you not even Obama's own internal polling is showing that much of a lead. If it were, he wouldn't be hitting OH as hard.

[Cliffy]

this poll is all screwed up because of the early voting being off by 100% greater than actual, just all ate up.

[Seriously?]

this poll is all screwed up because of the early voting being off by 100% greater than actual, just all ate up.

Oversampling of statistically insignificant subsamples of Early Votes could be the story of the election. As well as early voters fooling the likely voter screen.

[Eraserhead]

Goodbye Mitt.

[Mister Twister]

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

[Lief 🗽]

Great pics guys!^^^

Keep up the fight, Romney's forces are wavering.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

Great pics guys!^^^

Keep up the fight, Romney's forces are wavering.

The real question on election night will be between whether Obama will outperform his 2008 result in Ohio or not. You heard it here first folks.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Great pics guys!^^^

Keep up the fight, Romney's forces are wavering.

The real question on election night will be between whether Obama will outperform his 2008 result in Ohio or not. You heard it here first folks.

If the Romney campaign strategy is any indication, then yes.  Barack will crack 52%.

[Seriously?]

Great pics guys!^^^

Keep up the fight, Romney's forces are wavering.

The real question on election night will be between whether Obama will outperform his 2008 result in Ohio or not. You heard it here first folks.

If the Romney campaign strategy is any indication, then yes.  Barack will crack 52%.

In what reputable national telephone poll has Obama cracked 50, more or less 52? (And don't say Zogby's online poll).

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Great pics guys!^^^

Keep up the fight, Romney's forces are wavering.

The real question on election night will be between whether Obama will outperform his 2008 result in Ohio or not. You heard it here first folks.

If the Romney campaign strategy is any indication, then yes.  Barack will crack 52%.

In what reputable national telephone poll has Obama cracked 50, more or less 52? (And don't say Zogby's online poll).

'In Ohio'.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

If I were all the Republican trolls and the like here, I would stock up on some good whiskey like I have for election night. Mittens isn't winning this thing, and if he does I will gladly leave the forum forever, so you may as well prepare for another 4 years of Obama.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

God bless the staff of Obama's 300+ Ohio offices, who are indeed serving the Lord and are assisting us in a victory to help us take America for Jesus Christ.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

God bless the staff of Obama's 300+ Ohio offices, who are indeed serving the Lord and are assisting us in a victory to help us take America for Jesus Christ.

This is the most epic thing you've ever posted, BRTD.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

God bless the staff of Obama's 300+ Ohio offices, who are indeed serving the Lord and are assisting us in a victory to help us take America for Jesus Christ.

This is the most epic thing you've ever posted, BRTD.

Let nobody question BRTD's flair for the dramatic.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

If I were all the Republican trolls and the like here, I would stock up on some good whiskey like I have for election night. Mittens isn't winning this thing, and if he does I will gladly leave the forum forever, so you may as well prepare for another 4 years of Obama.

You're one of the guys I'm most sorry for... your cause deserves better.

How long before he's accused of being a RINO?

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Eh, I still think there's a sneaky path for Mitt through Wisconsin.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Eh, I still think there's a sneaky path for Mitt through Wisconsin.

Only one he has.  He's aware of this.