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« Reply #150 on: November 24, 2012, 12:23:56 PM »

Bushie, you should also go for walks for about an hour a day.  It's not hard and will be good exercise.  If you have an iPod, music also makes it go by faster.

I'll keep that in mind.  I don't have an iPod, but I can still go for walks.

"Keeping it in mind" won't help if you don't actually do some physical activity.

Agreed.  With that in mind, I'll be going for a small walk later this afternoon after it gets a bit warmer outside.
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« Reply #151 on: November 24, 2012, 01:00:53 PM »

I think what I'm going to do as far as exercise goes is walk around my apartment complex for about 45 minutes every other day.  This means one week I'll walk 4 times, the next week 3 times, after that 4 times, and so on.  I want to start gradually.  After the Bedlam football game this afternoon (Oklahoma State vs. Oklahoma), and after I finish with my laundry, I will get out and walk for about 45 minutes.  I'll walk again Monday after I get home from work, and so on.
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« Reply #152 on: November 24, 2012, 02:13:43 PM »

We shall see if it is within my capabilities, won't we, memphis?
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« Reply #153 on: November 24, 2012, 03:51:59 PM »

I know I have several doubters on here, based on my history, but I'm looking forward to what this new diet will do for me.

King, I will eventually work up to 1 hour every day, but I've got to start somewhere and walking 45 minutes every other day will be a lot better than sitting on my bottom all day every day.
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« Reply #154 on: November 24, 2012, 08:24:21 PM »

I haven't gone walking, yet, as I took a nap from 2:30-5:30 this afternoon and I still have two loads of laundry left to wash.  I still plan to get out there tonight for at least 30 minutes just to get started.  Right now, while my laundry is washing, I did just fix a small homemade pizza.  Its only 440 calories and is in the oven right now.  I thought about fixing a second small pizza, but I thought better of it.
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« Reply #155 on: November 24, 2012, 08:53:11 PM »

I just put the last load into the wash, so I'm going to go walking for about 30 minutes.  Its cold outside, high 30s, right now, but I do have a coat.  I'll see you in a little while.
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« Reply #156 on: November 24, 2012, 09:43:06 PM »

I just got back from walking nearly 2.5 miles (40 minutes).  I walked to work and back.  Work is 1.25 miles from my apartment.  I am exhausted and completely out of breath.  I will be sore by morning.
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« Reply #157 on: November 24, 2012, 10:03:07 PM »


Will do!
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« Reply #158 on: November 24, 2012, 11:00:33 PM »

Well then my apologies for misreading what you said.

Here's a guide on how many calories you need to maintain weight (meaning to lose, you need to eat less than the magic number).  I'm guessing you fall somewhere between the first and second one:

You exercise: Almost never
Multiply your current weight by: 12

You exercise: Lightly, one to three days a week
Multiply your current weight by: 13.5

You exercise: Moderately, three to five days a week
Multiply your current weight by: 15.5

You exercise: Vigorously, six to seven days a week
Multiply your current weight by: 17

You exercise: Vigorously, daily, and you have a physical job
Multiply your current weight by: 19

I had a grand total of a little shy of 2,500 calories today.  My current weight is 270 as of this morning.  Using your formula for almost never exercising, I should stay under 3,200 calories - (270 * 12).  I went well south of that goal, plus I walked 2.5 miles or 40 minutes worth.  There should be no reason I come down some tomorrow morning.  One thing I have to remember is that I will probably lose a bunch right up front and then level off later on and maybe even have a day or two with a net gain in weight.  I think that leveling off is what caused me to quit last February.
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« Reply #159 on: November 25, 2012, 01:07:19 AM »

I just got back from walking nearly 2.5 miles (40 minutes).  I walked to work and back.  Work is 1.25 miles from my apartment.  I am exhausted and completely out of breath.  I will be sore by morning.

Congrats.  I guarantee you after any soreness heals you'll be able to do that same walk with much less effort. 

I plan to get out there again Monday evening before MNF and walk about 40 minutes.

I'm not as sore right now except in my ankles.  I feel good, though, about walking and consuming only about 2,700 calories when its all said and done.  I did have a couple bowls of Crispix cereal this evening as a little snack, but I still came out roughly 500 calories shy of my target.
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« Reply #160 on: November 25, 2012, 10:53:07 AM »

Bushie, I'm not as up to date as some so I don't know your weight, but 2,700 calories is an awful lot for anyone. That's that kind of diet you'd be eating if you were lifting weights and trying to bulk up.

Remember, exercise doesn't give you a license to eat whatever you want - it's important, but unless you're Michael Phelps you're not going to be burning enough calories through exercise to offset a poor diet.

http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm


I don't know his height, but let's say he's 175 cm just for the sake of argument....then he should be consuming 2611 calories for weight maintenance. (Assuming little to no exercise, which is certainly true in his case.)

Bushie should be aiming for 2000 calories or so.

Using Inks formula, I should shoot for 3,200 calories.  I am 5'8" weighing 270.  Take 270 * 12 and you get 3,240 using the first category.

Today, I weigh 269.6 which is a loss of 0.6 lbs. Water weight to be sure.
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« Reply #161 on: November 25, 2012, 03:21:12 PM »

Bushie, I'm not as up to date as some so I don't know your weight, but 2,700 calories is an awful lot for anyone. That's that kind of diet you'd be eating if you were lifting weights and trying to bulk up.

Remember, exercise doesn't give you a license to eat whatever you want - it's important, but unless you're Michael Phelps you're not going to be burning enough calories through exercise to offset a poor diet.

http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm


I don't know his height, but let's say he's 175 cm just for the sake of argument....then he should be consuming 2611 calories for weight maintenance. (Assuming little to no exercise, which is certainly true in his case.)

Bushie should be aiming for 2000 calories or so.

Using Inks formula, I should shoot for 3,200 calories.  I am 5'8" weighing 270.  Take 270 * 12 and you get 3,240 using the first category.

Today, I weigh 269.6 which is a loss of 0.6 lbs. Water weight to be sure.

What does the calculator on the website I linked to give you? Not saying it's necessarily correct, but you might want to check different sources. The 3,200 really sounds too high to me.

It says for Maintenance, I need in the ballpark of 2,975 calories.  For Fat Loss, in the vicinity of 2,400 calories and extreme fat loss just over 2,100.  This is with 3 days/week exercise which is what I plan on doing.
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« Reply #162 on: November 25, 2012, 03:29:46 PM »

Interesting note, if I add an extra day per week to my exercise from 3 days to 4 days, it buys me an extra 80-100 calories a day.

Right now, I am sitting at 1,100 calories today.  I may get out and walk about 15 minutes a little later on.  Nothing much, but something to keep me active.
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« Reply #163 on: November 25, 2012, 07:20:47 PM »

Interesting note, if I add an extra day per week to my exercise from 3 days to 4 days, it buys me an extra 80-100 calories a day.


With that kind of outlook, Bushie, you won't get anywhere.

Hey, i'm just regurgitating what the link that Franzl provided told me.  For an extra day of exercise, I can have an extra 75-100 calories a day and be fine.  There's not a whole lot you can get for under 100 calories, so its not a big increase.
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« Reply #164 on: November 25, 2012, 07:31:49 PM »

the fact that you choose to unnecessarily increase your daily calorie in count, instead of increase your calorie out count, shows that you don't sincerely care about this.  It shows that you prioritize getting away with increasing your calories out over the equivalent reduction in calories.

Don't write me a three-paragraph emotive response to this, because I won't read that noise.  If you can't show that this prioritizes calories out over calories in, it's bullsh**t.  Stop deluding yourself, and stop wasting everyone's time.

I'm just telling what the link shows.  It doesn't mean I'm going to milk the extra calories for all they are worth.  I guess you've also missed the post that I have started exercising.  I guess the 2.5 miles yesterday doesn't even show up?  What do I have to do? Exercise and starve?
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« Reply #165 on: November 25, 2012, 07:56:23 PM »

the fact that you choose to unnecessarily increase your daily calorie in count, instead of increase your calorie out count, shows that you don't sincerely care about this.  It shows that you prioritize getting away with increasing your calories out over the equivalent reduction in calories.

Don't write me a three-paragraph emotive response to this, because I won't read that noise.  If you can't show that this prioritizes calories out over calories in, it's bullsh**t.  Stop deluding yourself, and stop wasting everyone's time.

I'm just telling what the link shows.  It doesn't mean I'm going to milk the extra calories for all they are worth.  I guess you've also missed the post that I have started exercising.  I guess the 2.5 miles yesterday doesn't even show up?  What do I have to do? Exercise and starve?

Again, your anecdote-laden three-paragraph explanations are of no use to me.  You accomplish things by setting standards and then following through on them.  When I see you writing something like this...

"For an extra day of exercise, I can have an extra 75-100 calories a day and be fine."

...it's a red flag you're not doing that.  If you are exercising and reducing your calories as much as you can without doing greater damage to your quality of life, great.  If not, start.  The rest is noise, and I think you abuse that noise to rationalize and to get attention, and I'm not indulging it.  I'm interested in the standard-setting and the follow-through and little else.

Also, bro, I never told you to "exercise and starve."  Check yourself.

If you want to check the link that Franzl provided for yourself, you will see exactly what I'm talking about.  I'm not going to use the extra 75-100 calories, but I'm not making it up.

Yesterday, I had 2,700 calories using Inks' model.  Today, so far, I've had 1,100 calories and about ready to have dinner.

I know you didn't say "exercise and starve", I just got frustrated that nobody was bothering to check the link that Franzl provided and was lambasting me for just saying what it shows.
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« Reply #166 on: November 25, 2012, 08:23:24 PM »

After dinner, I am at 2,000 calories on the day.  With it getting later in the day, I doubt I'll have anything else tonight.
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« Reply #167 on: November 25, 2012, 09:32:58 PM »

Bushie, I'm not as up to date as some so I don't know your weight, but 2,700 calories is an awful lot for anyone. That's that kind of diet you'd be eating if you were lifting weights and trying to bulk up.

Remember, exercise doesn't give you a license to eat whatever you want - it's important, but unless you're Michael Phelps you're not going to be burning enough calories through exercise to offset a poor diet.

http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm


I don't know his height, but let's say he's 175 cm just for the sake of argument....then he should be consuming 2611 calories for weight maintenance. (Assuming little to no exercise, which is certainly true in his case.)

Bushie should be aiming for 2000 calories or so.

Using Inks formula, I should shoot for 3,200 calories.  I am 5'8" weighing 270.  Take 270 * 12 and you get 3,240 using the first category.

Today, I weigh 269.6 which is a loss of 0.6 lbs. Water weight to be sure.

What does the calculator on the website I linked to give you? Not saying it's necessarily correct, but you might want to check different sources. The 3,200 really sounds too high to me.

Yeah, becasue 270 is really heavy.  3,200 sounds about right to maintain that high of a weight.

Is 3,200 calories weight maintenance or is it weight loss?  The reason I ask is I fell 500 calories shy of that yesterday and still only lost 3/4 pound.  Right now, I am sitting at only 1,980 for today, and its already 7:30 pm.  I'm thinking about getting something light, maybe Malt-o-Meal hot cereal for a snack, but I still won't get anywhere near 3,200.
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« Reply #168 on: November 25, 2012, 10:15:29 PM »

Bushie, I'm not as up to date as some so I don't know your weight, but 2,700 calories is an awful lot for anyone. That's that kind of diet you'd be eating if you were lifting weights and trying to bulk up.

Remember, exercise doesn't give you a license to eat whatever you want - it's important, but unless you're Michael Phelps you're not going to be burning enough calories through exercise to offset a poor diet.

http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm


I don't know his height, but let's say he's 175 cm just for the sake of argument....then he should be consuming 2611 calories for weight maintenance. (Assuming little to no exercise, which is certainly true in his case.)

Bushie should be aiming for 2000 calories or so.

Using Inks formula, I should shoot for 3,200 calories.  I am 5'8" weighing 270.  Take 270 * 12 and you get 3,240 using the first category.

Today, I weigh 269.6 which is a loss of 0.6 lbs. Water weight to be sure.

What does the calculator on the website I linked to give you? Not saying it's necessarily correct, but you might want to check different sources. The 3,200 really sounds too high to me.

Yeah, becasue 270 is really heavy.  3,200 sounds about right to maintain that high of a weight.

Is 3,200 calories weight maintenance or is it weight loss?  The reason I ask is I fell 500 calories shy of that yesterday and still only lost 3/4 pound.  Right now, I am sitting at only 1,980 for today, and its already 7:30 pm.  I'm thinking about getting something light, maybe Malt-o-Meal hot cereal for a snack, but I still won't get anywhere near 3,200.

Maintenance.

That's what I thought.  I'm going to focus on staying right around 2,500 calories a day and walking 3-5 times a week.

Patrick, while I do eventually want to get to an hour a day every day, I am not going to start that much immediately.  I'm going to work up to it.

You may have noticed, but I burn out extremely easy.  What profit would it be if I started full throttle right off the bat and burn out a week, two weeks, a month down the road?  Rather, the proper course of action, is to pace myself initially and work myself up to 60-75 minutes a day.  Plus, 3 days a week at 45 minutes each is a whole lot better than doing absolutely nothing for 7 days a week.  The burn out fear is also why I'm not going to drop to 2,000 calories immediately.  First off, the link that Franzl provided tells me to stay between 2,300-2,500 and that anything below 2,150 is borderline dangerous for my weight, especially on the days I walk.  So, I'm going to start off at 2,500 and as my weight drops, I'll lower the calorie intake.  If I aim for 2,000 calories immediately, I will have stronger cravings for junk food and it is too easy for me to give in to the cravings.
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« Reply #169 on: November 25, 2012, 11:35:06 PM »

Good post, Patrick, thank you.  I will definitely be figuring out what works best for me and what triggers cause me to do such things.  I am not in the Marine Corps, so I'm not under any real time crunch here, other than my life clock which is going to tick down and eventually expire whether I lose weight or not.  So, if my first attempt doesn't succeed, I can come back for a second attempt and a third attempt and so on until I find out exactly what works for me.  You and I have something in common, we are driven by results.  When I started losing weight a year ago, I was dropping like 3-4 lbs a week.  I gave up when I leveled off a couple of months later.  Then, I went to Kenya, and never got back to it.  I've made a few half hearted attempts since then, but nothing that really stuck.  I'm hoping and praying and determined that this attempt will be different.
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« Reply #170 on: November 26, 2012, 12:03:44 AM »

I finished the day in the 2,500-2,600 calorie range, so I should be okay by morning.  I'm well shy of the 3,200 maintenance calories and I'm closer to my 2,500 goal.  We'll see if I can drop just a bit by morning.
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« Reply #171 on: November 26, 2012, 07:11:04 PM »

I am very low on my calorie intake for the day.  I'm sitting at a grand total of 500 calories.  I had no breakfast, and just had a Lunchable for lunch.  I'm about ready to find something for dinner after the 5:00 pm newscast.  I probably should find a few more calories.

Edit:  I'm closer to 400 calories than 500.
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« Reply #172 on: November 26, 2012, 08:49:55 PM »

Lunchable? How old are you, seven? But you needn't starve yourself. Eat a lot of celery, it's good for you and has a lot of water in it- very filling.

It's all about convenience and cheap.  I finally did get some supper, so I'm sitting at about 1,700 calories on the day.  Its still low, but I'm not starving right now.
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« Reply #173 on: November 26, 2012, 09:04:50 PM »

I am very low on my calorie intake for the day.  I'm sitting at a grand total of 500 calories.  I had no breakfast, and just had a Lunchable for lunch.  I'm about ready to find something for dinner after the 5:00 pm newscast.  I probably should find a few more calories.

Edit:  I'm closer to 400 calories than 500.

If you're going to skip a meal, don't make it breakfast - that's what jump starts your metabolism.

Breakfast is my favorite meal of the day, yet it is the meal I most often skip.  I guess it wouldn't hurt me to get up a half hour earlier to fix a little something.
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« Reply #174 on: November 26, 2012, 09:36:07 PM »

Establishing healthful habits is more important than closely tracking your daily calorie intake. Don't eat a "lunchable." Have an apple and some yogurt tomorrow instead. Keep doing whatever is easiest and cheapest and you'll be dead before you're 60.

Exactly.  If your calories are all from high sodium crap like lunchables (which I have never had... not even one), you're going to end up with other problems.

That's not actually true. Eating breakfast doesn't change your metabolism, but it does have other beneficial effects. You'll have more energy and you're less likely to gorge yourself on on junk food later in the day.

My problem is I tend to eat breakfast at the wrong end of the day.  I enjoy it for the first meal of the day, and I also enjoy breakfast for dinner.  That's one habit I will have to significantly reduce if I want to be successful at losing weight.
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