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Question: Which do you consider the greatest landslide?
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1936 - FDR
 
#2
1964 - LBJ
 
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1972 - Nixon
 
#4
1984 - Reagan
 
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minionofmidas
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« on: January 29, 2005, 06:10:52 AM »

Effectively a tie between FDR, Johnson and Nixon (and Harding too), with all those even considering Reagan struck from voter roll due to mental incapacity
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2005, 07:13:52 AM »

Probably Nixon, but should be very close.
Mondale won far more Southern (Black) counties than McGovern, also there's a big cluster in NE Ohio and SW Pennsylvania that's Dem in 84, Rep in 72.
McGovern won a lot of counties in SD, and quite a few more counties than Mondale in MN and MA.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2005, 07:38:53 AM »

Of course, all that info is on the Atlas already...
Nixon won 2980 counties, Reagan 2781.

2004 Bush 2530, Kerry 583
2000 Bush 2439, Gore 674
1996 Dole 1587, Clinton 1526
1992 Bush 1582, Clinton 1519, Perot 15
1988 Bush 2295, Dukakis 820
1984 Reagan 2781, Mondale 334
1980 Reagan 2213, Carter 900
1976 Carter 1711, Ford 1403 (yes, that's right.)
1972 Nixon 2980, McGovern 131
1968 Nixon 1849, Humphrey 684, Wallace 578
1964 Johnson 2275, Goldwater 826, unpledged 6 [Ala Democrat. Should for practical purposes be included with Johnson tally]
1960 Nixon 1848, Kennedy 1186, unpledged 71 [Ala Dem counties apparently included in Kennedy total. Ala Dem slate was only partly pledged to Kennedy, partly unpledged]
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2005, 10:11:01 AM »

The media was very pro-Roosevelt, especially during the Great Depression, and probably rightly so.  That was no doubt very helpful to him in a time when nearly everyone relied on radio and print for virtually all their information.
The print media was about as hostile to Roosevelt in 1936 as it was hostile to Goldwater in 1964...Radio is a little different. The moneyed part of America was pretty confident that Roosevelt would lose in 1936.

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McGovern got destroyed by the media...and the fact that he was a very bad candidate.
Mondale hardly got a good press either.

What is impressive about 1984 is that a landslide didn't appear to be on the cards in the summer. Only election in recent memory where the campaign really made a huge difference.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2005, 10:12:56 AM »


Thanks! I really had no idea the site offered this service. Is part of the reason the Republicans win so many counties that the bread-basket states have so many whereas the coastal states have so few?
South, too. Texas alone has over 200, IIRC Georgia has the second highest no. I would guess blindly that Nebraska's counties have the lowest average population.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2005, 09:10:44 AM »

Illinois in 1964 looks...weird. Has there ever been a real election where Illinois and Indiana agreed with each other but with none of the six surrounding states?
Also, Illinois is the only state to be won by the national winner by less than 10% at each of these elections...while SD would be the national anti-bellwether if these maps were real election results, siding with the loser every time.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2005, 06:53:39 AM »

It's a 10-point swing - 10% of voters would have to switch from voting for the one party to voting for the other party.
Both usages exist. I tend to use the other one, too.

Anyways, it's hardly surprising that a 10-(20-)point swing would lead to a Mondale victory in the EV, but not a McGovern, Goldwater or Landon victory - The same is true in the PV, after all.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2005, 06:00:34 AM »

However, I will entertain the notion that the other landslide were more dramatic if you can supply the party identification numbers for the elections in question.  It isn't too impressive of a landslid if you only carried your own voters.  However, if you carried a rge majority of the independents and a significant minority of the other party, then I'll xonsider that an impressive landslide.
I don't have the detailed data, but they definitely all did that.
I don't think Goldwater carried a single state where Republicans were a majority of voters.
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