Will Pelosi be pushed out if House Dems dont get back over 200?
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Mr.Phips
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« on: September 26, 2012, 02:33:11 AM »

There is certainly a real possibility.  If Democrats cant make significant gains with Romney collapsing at the top of the ticket they are in huge trouble.

The problem is, who do Democrats have to replace her?  Steny Hoyer is even older than she is(almost 74) and Jim Clyburn is too(72). 

House Democrats need to find their own version of Newt Gingrich.  A young and energitic liberal who will do anything to get the majority, even if it means going against a President of their own party. 

Say what you will about Gingrich, but he built the Republican House majority that has existed for all but four of the last 18 years.  Democrats cant be stuck with their own versions of Bob Michel and Ed Madigan who believed that their own party would never get the majority so they might as well work with the majority party and get whatever crumbs they are given. 

Its time for some new, young leadership in the House Democratic caucus. 
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2012, 02:35:32 AM »

How about Pete Stark?
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2012, 02:38:13 AM »


Too old. 
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2012, 02:39:14 AM »

How about Andrew Cuomo?
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2012, 03:49:14 AM »

Debbie Wasserman Schultz? She's too polarising to go to better things....
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2012, 04:14:12 PM »

Pelosi will leave out of her own choice after this cycle anyway if she doesn't win a majority, which is basically a 95% chance. The question is who replaces her.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2012, 04:40:13 PM »

There is certainly a real possibility.  If Democrats cant make significant gains with Romney collapsing at the top of the ticket they are in huge trouble.

The problem is, who do Democrats have to replace her?  Steny Hoyer is even older than she is(almost 74) and Jim Clyburn is too(72). 

House Democrats need to find their own version of Newt Gingrich.  A young and energitic liberal who will do anything to get the majority, even if it means going against a President of their own party. 

Say what you will about Gingrich, but he built the Republican House majority that has existed for all but four of the last 18 years.  Democrats cant be stuck with their own versions of Bob Michel and Ed Madigan who believed that their own party would never get the majority so they might as well work with the majority party and get whatever crumbs they are given. 

Its time for some new, young leadership in the House Democratic caucus. 

Chris Van Hollen and Steve Israel are the first names that come to mind here.
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2012, 04:57:58 PM »

There is certainly a real possibility.  If Democrats cant make significant gains with Romney collapsing at the top of the ticket they are in huge trouble.

The problem is, who do Democrats have to replace her?  Steny Hoyer is even older than she is(almost 74) and Jim Clyburn is too(72). 

House Democrats need to find their own version of Newt Gingrich.  A young and energitic liberal who will do anything to get the majority, even if it means going against a President of their own party. 

Say what you will about Gingrich, but he built the Republican House majority that has existed for all but four of the last 18 years.  Democrats cant be stuck with their own versions of Bob Michel and Ed Madigan who believed that their own party would never get the majority so they might as well work with the majority party and get whatever crumbs they are given. 

Its time for some new, young leadership in the House Democratic caucus. 

Chris Van Hollen and Steve Israel are the first names that come to mind here.
I'd say Van Hollen, Israel, Jim Himes of Connecticut, John Carmey of Deleware or Cedric Richmond of Louisiana. The first four could be wildly partisan and it not matter because they're in blue states. Like Gingrich was in Georgia.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2012, 05:15:34 PM »

There is certainly a real possibility.  If Democrats cant make significant gains with Romney collapsing at the top of the ticket they are in huge trouble.

The problem is, who do Democrats have to replace her?  Steny Hoyer is even older than she is(almost 74) and Jim Clyburn is too(72). 

House Democrats need to find their own version of Newt Gingrich.  A young and energitic liberal who will do anything to get the majority, even if it means going against a President of their own party. 

Say what you will about Gingrich, but he built the Republican House majority that has existed for all but four of the last 18 years.  Democrats cant be stuck with their own versions of Bob Michel and Ed Madigan who believed that their own party would never get the majority so they might as well work with the majority party and get whatever crumbs they are given. 

Its time for some new, young leadership in the House Democratic caucus. 

Chris Van Hollen and Steve Israel are the first names that come to mind here.
I'd say Van Hollen, Israel, Jim Himes of Connecticut, John Carmey of Deleware or Cedric Richmond of Louisiana. The first four could be wildly partisan and it not matter because they're in blue states. Like Gingrich was in Georgia.

Van Hollen and Isreal are probably the top choices.  With Gingrich, you have to remember that from 1978 to 1992, he represented a district that was traditionally very Democratic. 
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2012, 05:21:28 PM »

Alan Grayson should be back this year, how about him?
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2012, 05:27:15 PM »

Alan Grayson should be back this year, how about him?
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2012, 05:30:02 PM »

If not for the scandal, Anthony Wiener would've been the perfect. He struck me as a Teddy Kennedy style firebrand, a Liberal Lion.
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2012, 05:31:31 PM »

No, he was always basically a waspish prick. Waspish as in 'like a wasp' not as in 'WASP', obviously.
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2012, 05:38:46 PM »

I've seen you make multiple moronic comments about Andrew Cuomo filling leadership positions in Congress. Educate yourself before doing it again.
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2012, 05:41:04 PM »

I've seen you make multiple moronic comments about Andrew Cuomo filling leadership positions in Congress. Educate yourself before doing it again.

He is joking (hence his Pete Stark post).
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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2012, 07:46:40 PM »

Van Hollen is my choice.
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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2012, 08:04:31 PM »

How about Xavier Becerra?
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2012, 09:15:47 PM »

Van Hollen seems like an uncontroversial choice, but I think the Dems might chose someone more unconventional if Pelosi is pushed out of power.
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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2012, 10:33:06 PM »

Pelosi will leave out of her own choice after this cycle anyway if she doesn't win a majority, which is basically a 95% chance. The question is who replaces her.

What makes you think Pelosi will retire after next term? She certainly won't be forced out if the Democrats don't win a majority. 2010 was a referendum on her to some degree (less than Obama obviously), and if she kept her job then......
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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2012, 10:42:30 PM »

Rahm should've stayed in the House.  He'd likely be Leader by now.
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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2012, 10:46:25 PM »

Hopefully she retires after this cycle, I think Van Hollen would be a good choice, he also has a pretty cool last name.
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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2012, 10:57:00 PM »

Becerra and Van Hollen obviously want top leadership positions in the House, but seem to have no appetite to push out Pelosi or Hoyer before they want to go.  Pelosi presumably retires after one or two more terms anyway, with Hoyer possibly taking over for a term or two before he retires as well.

I doubt there'll be any change this year, but you never know.  Pelosi may well retire on her own if it looks like there's no chance of the Dems retaking the House any time soon, but I don't think she'll be pushed out.
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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2012, 07:04:31 PM »

I'd almost say that it should be someone Hispanic. 
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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2012, 10:19:31 PM »

She'll most likely voluntarily retire from leadership after this cycle IMO.
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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2012, 10:19:53 PM »

Pelosi will step down if we don't take back the house this year. I really hope we don't replace her with Hoyer. He is more than useless. Van Hollen or Becerra would be great.
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