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J. J.
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« on: September 17, 2012, 04:42:04 PM »

True tossup. 

About the only state that I might move off the the list is NC, if Romney keeps on getting good numbers.

I'm hear some rumors of closing in FL.
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J. J.
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2012, 04:47:57 PM »
« Edited: September 17, 2012, 04:53:00 PM by J. J. »

True tossup. 

About the only state that I might move off the the list is NC, if Romney keeps on getting good numbers.

I'm hear some rumors of closing in FL.

Romney's numbers in NC are as good as Obama's numbers in Ohio, so I hope you'll be moving the Buckeye state off the list as well.

And who are you hearing these rumors from?

Romney's numbers have been trending upward in NC, and it was closer than OH in 2008.  OH is static, and still a tossup.  It OH starts trending for Obama, that will be different.  Oh, and the 'bot put Romney down by 1 in OH and up by 6 in NC.

Pat Cadell, a Democrat, who was polling FL; results are being released at the end of the week.
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J. J.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2012, 06:37:49 PM »

True tossup. 

About the only state that I might move off the the list is NC, if Romney keeps on getting good numbers.

I'm hear some rumors of closing in FL.

Romney's numbers in NC are as good as Obama's numbers in Ohio, so I hope you'll be moving the Buckeye state off the list as well.

And who are you hearing these rumors from?

Romney's numbers have been trending upward in NC, and it was closer than OH in 2008.  OH is static, and still a tossup.  It OH starts trending for Obama, that will be different.  Oh, and the 'bot put Romney down by 1 in OH and up by 6 in NC.

Pat Cadell, a Democrat, who was polling FL; results are being released at the end of the week.

If Romney is leading in a battleground state, it's safe for him. If Obama is leading, it's up in the air. Got it.

You're such a complete and total hack. If you just admitted it, I'm sure we'd all stop giving you such a hard time.

Roll Eyes  You obviously missed the bolded part. I wouldn't off for just one poll.


Ah, he did call 1980 right, and brought Carter to tears.  He also was the first guy I heard looking at the raw vote in FL in 2000 to say the networks had wrongly called FL for Gore. 
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J. J.
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2012, 07:27:32 PM »

Do you still consider Dick Morris a Democrat too, JJ?

I consider Dick Morris a bad pollster. 
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J. J.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2012, 11:01:01 PM »

Pat Cadell, a Democrat, who was polling FL; results are being released at the end of the week.

J.J., that's like citing Andrew Sullivan, a Republican. Pat Cadell is a Fox News Democrat who's been happily bashing the party on tv for more than a decade.

He's worked for Democrats and he's a good pollster.
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J. J.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2012, 11:12:00 PM »

Pat Cadell, a Democrat, who was polling FL; results are being released at the end of the week.

J.J., that's like citing Andrew Sullivan, a Republican. Pat Cadell is a Fox News Democrat who's been happily bashing the party on tv for more than a decade.

He has worked for Democrats and from what I've seen, in a good pollster.  I'm more interested in the latter.
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J. J.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2012, 12:53:55 AM »

Pat Caddell doesn't even pretend to be a Democrat anymore, really. If you didn't know that he was a "Democrat" he'd sound like any other far-right Republican. He's still an interesting guy and I like watching that Campaign Insiders show he's on, but acting like he's a Democrat is ridiculous.

As recently as 2010, he worked for Romanoff in Co.

He is a Democrat, though one that doesn't always tow the party line, which may be your problem with him.  He is, from what I've seen, a good pollster and analyst. 
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J. J.
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2012, 01:01:43 AM »

From what I could find out about the fiklm, The Hope and the Change it profiles Democrats and Independents that are no longer supporting Obama.  There seems to a lot of that going around.
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J. J.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2012, 10:40:03 PM »

Pat Caddell doesn't even pretend to be a Democrat anymore, really. If you didn't know that he was a "Democrat" he'd sound like any other far-right Republican. He's still an interesting guy and I like watching that Campaign Insiders show he's on, but acting like he's a Democrat is ridiculous.

As recently as 2010, he worked for Romanoff in Co.

He is a Democrat, though one that doesn't always tow the party line, which may be your problem with him.  He is, from what I've seen, a good pollster and analyst. 

You'll be citing Zell Miller and Joe Leiberman any minute now I suspect.

Romanoff didn't look all that conservative.  I'll agree that Caddell certainly isn't an establishment Democrat, but still a Democrat.
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