VA, Gravis Marketing: Romney leads by 5

[Franzl]

Bet PPP or survey USA would have Obama up 6 there at the moment. Makes no sense, and Gravis has no proven track record to deserve any benefit of doubt.

The typical forum response to anything that doesn't show the Democrats leading...oh it must not have any accuracy whats so ever!

Do you serve any other purpose besides claiming the forum is full of anti-Republican hacks?

[Supersonic]

Bet PPP or survey USA would have Obama up 6 there at the moment. Makes no sense, and Gravis has no proven track record to deserve any benefit of doubt.

The typical forum response to anything that doesn't show the Democrats leading...oh it must not have any accuracy whats so ever!

Do you serve any other purpose besides claiming the forum is full of anti-Republican hacks?

He's not as bad as Mondale84.

[memphis]

Where's Goode?

[Stranger in a strange land]

There's no way Romney is leading by 5 points in Virginia while trailing by 4-6 points nationwide. There's no way Virginia is 10 points more Republican than the nation as a whole.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Has Nate talked about this polling company yet? Definitely does not seem legit....

Furthermore, Gravis has had substantial Republican lean in the other polls it has released this year, making these results look stronger for Mr. Obama by comparison.

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[Sbane]

Has Nate talked about this polling company yet? Definitely does not seem legit....

Furthermore, Gravis has had substantial Republican lean in the other polls it has released this year, making these results look stronger for Mr. Obama by comparison.

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I was wondering whether he talked about their polling methodology/credibility rather than what kind of lean they have. Obama up 4 in Ohio and down 5 in Virginia? Uhh....

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Eh, there's always a poll that shows what you want it to.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=48619.0

[Mister Twister]

Romney is only winning by 5 in Virginia if NoVa is annexed by Maryland.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

We can talk when they spell the name Kaine correctly! What a joke

Wow...

Bet PPP or survey USA would have Obama up 6 there at the moment. Makes no sense, and Gravis has no proven track record to deserve any benefit of doubt.

The typical forum response to anything that doesn't show the Democrats leading...oh it must not have any accuracy whats so ever!

Keep trying to troll yourself out of this...

Hypocrisy is a word you should look up, mondale84.

I'm not the one defending an obvious junk poll...

Since you apparently didn't look up hypocrisy...

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You were implying that you had a virtue (in this case, not being a troll) that you obviously do not.
[Evidence below]

Be disgusted at the massive amount of voter fraud the Republicans will have perpetrated in order to get that close to 50% of the vote. No way that Romney beats Obama by that much in the PV without massive fraud, NO WAY.

How is that trolling?

Gee, let me count the ways...

Even the right-wing hacks at RCP

Let me stop you right there. RCP are not right-wing hacks, and the feature you are talking about is a poll aggregator.

show Romney at only 45%

45.4. To Obama's 49%. That's about half the margin of 2008.

and Obamamentum only continues to grow.

Since 3Sep, yes. So nine days.
In comparison, Romney was steadily increasing his percentage, with few hiccups, from 12Aug to 5Sep. These trends can change.

There is no way that Romney comes close to winning the PV

Even though he was tied less than two weeks ago.
Remember four years ago, mondale84? You know, when McCain was actually ahead for a while, but then Lehman collapsed and everything changed? A similar event, which could quite possibly happen before November, would decimate Obama's chances.

and no way he wins by Virginia - let alone is leading by 5 right now.

Nobody sane said so.

Stop defending the right-wing trolls on this forum (they are numerous enough to take care of themselves) and move along.

I'm not defending them, I'm saying you are the exact same thing painted a different colour.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Silver reports that they have about a +4 R bias.

[JFK-Democrat]

Is this a legit pollster?

[Earthling]

They don't have a track-record, so hard to tell.

But Ohio went from Romney +3 to Obama +4 within a week. So I would say, no.

[MorningInAmerica]

Silver reports that they have about a +4 R bias.

By that same metric, Nate Silver says PPP has +3.1 D bias. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/calculating-house-effects-of-polling-firms/

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Bogus poll.

[Vosem]

Gravis seems to weirdly oscillate between good results and extreme GOP leans. I'm sorry to say this belongs in the second category. Would be nice, though.

Silver reports that they have about a +4 R bias.

Yeah...that's average. I would say, right now, the 'right' answer for Virginia is O+3, though it's hard to tell because of Libya and the convention bounce and lots of weird polls out there at the same time.

[Devils30]

PPP will have Obama leading here 51-45 come early next week.

[Likely Voter]

pollsters like PPP and Rasmussen have leans. Gravis seems to be more like Zogby where its almost random, but generally unreliable.