GER-Infratest dimap/ARD: Germany's 140 EV solidly in the Obama column
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« on: September 07, 2012, 01:16:21 AM »

New "Deutschland-Trend" poll by pollster Infratest dimap (does the Exit Polls in Germany together with ZDF/Forschungsgruppe Wahlen) for the ARD TV channel shows:



How would you rate the job Barack Obama is doing as President ?



17% Very Good
58% Good
13% Not so good
  3% Not good at all

http://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/bilder/crbilderstrecke386.html
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2012, 01:27:31 AM »

Romney just comes off as a fake greedy guy to people out of the United States while they see Obama as "Normal".
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2012, 01:28:14 AM »

Haha, if only the rest of the world voted Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2012, 01:32:09 AM »

Well, Obama might do better in DC.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2012, 03:58:02 AM »

Nice picture they used for Romney. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2012, 05:05:06 AM »

Romney just comes off as a fake greedy guy to people out of the United States while they see Obama as "Normal".

When even David Cameron and Boris Johnson don't like you, you're doing something wrong.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2012, 05:38:09 AM »

Doesn't surprise me. I'd be more interested in the 7% of Germans that support Romney. Who is that? I doubt anyone I know here is against Obama. NPD voters and xenophobics?
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2012, 05:57:38 AM »

Doesn't surprise me. I'd be more interested in the 7% of Germans that support Romney. Who is that? I doubt anyone I know here is against Obama. NPD voters and xenophobics?
The two people I know who support the NPD are the same two [German] people I know who support Romney.
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2012, 07:36:06 AM »

The German educational system is much more rigorous than the American educational system.
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2012, 07:45:09 AM »

This confirms the 'Forsa' poll taken just about 2 weeks ago. Interesting that even most conservatives in Germany would vote for Obama
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2012, 08:23:35 AM »

This confirms the 'Forsa' poll taken just about 2 weeks ago. Interesting that even most conservatives in Germany would vote for Obama

Does it surprise you? Obama isn't anywhere near a left-winger in a European context.
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2012, 08:31:18 AM »

Doesn't surprise me. I'd be more interested in the 7% of Germans that support Romney. Who is that? I doubt anyone I know here is against Obama. NPD voters and xenophobics?
The two people I know who support the NPD are the same two [German] people I know who support Romney.

It actually surprises me that NPD voters would support Mitt Romney. After all he's a "Zionist puppet" and candidate of the "Jewish-American corporate elite". Tongue

Germany has a very tiny group of neo-conservatives who are staunchly pro-American (read pro-Republican) and pro-Israel (read pro-Likud), who supported the Iraq invasion in 2003 and would support an Israeli strike against Iran. Think Henryk M. Broder as an prominent example (ignore his religion please, there are also non-Jewish examples). I suppose most Romney supporters must come from that group.
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2012, 08:38:49 AM »

Doesn't surprise me. I'd be more interested in the 7% of Germans that support Romney. Who is that? I doubt anyone I know here is against Obama. NPD voters and xenophobics?
The two people I know who support the NPD are the same two [German] people I know who support Romney.

It actually surprises me that NPD voters would support Mitt Romney. After all he's a "Zionist puppet" and candidate of the "Jewish-American corporate elite". Tongue

Germany has a very tiny group of neo-conservatives who are staunchly pro-American (read pro-Republican) and pro-Israel (read pro-Likud), who supported the Iraq invasion in 2003 and would support an Israeli strike against Iran. Think Henryk M. Broder as an prominent example (ignore his religion please, there are also non-Jewish examples). I suppose most Romney supporters must come from that group.

You forgot rich people !

They mainly live in and around Munich, Frankfurt, Hamburg and Berlin and usually vote CDU/FDP (even though the majority of those party voters also back Obama over Romney - very easily also).
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2012, 09:28:51 AM »

Romney just comes off as a fake greedy guy to people out of the United States while they see Obama as "Normal".

Not quite.

I know many Romney, and Gary Johnson supporters for that matter, in the UK.
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2012, 09:54:22 AM »

Romney just comes off as a fake greedy guy to people out of the United States while they see Obama as "Normal".

Not quite.

I know many Romney, and Gary Johnson supporters for that matter, in the UK.

Really ?

I think if you'd ask 1000 people here in Austria who Gary Johnson was, you'd be lucky to get 1 person to know that he's a former Gov. of New Mexico (me excluded of course Tongue).

I think most would assume that he's some actor or English football player etc.
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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2012, 09:58:56 AM »

Romney just comes off as a fake greedy guy to people out of the United States while they see Obama as "Normal".

Not quite.

I know many Romney, and Gary Johnson supporters for that matter, in the UK.

Really ?

I think if you'd ask 1000 people here in Austria who Gary Johnson was, you'd be lucky to get 1 person to know that he's a former Gov. of New Mexico (me excluded of course Tongue).

I think most would assume that he's some actor or English football player etc.

Yeah, haha. I guess it comes from hanging around an extremely hackish, baby-eating, NHS hating, Republican loving, 'moar tax cuts', Tory student crowd. Tongue

The average person wouldn't know bugger all about Johnson, would only know about Romney for ripping the Olympics and would nine times out of ten say that anyone not voting Obama is a racist.
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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2012, 10:22:25 AM »

I suggest we trade Texas in for Germany......
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2012, 12:31:38 PM »

I suggest we trade Texas in for Germany......

No thanks.
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2012, 12:54:25 PM »

What saddens me is that a wonderful country like Germany votes like DC Tongue
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2012, 01:03:29 PM »

What saddens me is that a wonderful country like Germany votes like DC Tongue

It saddens me that as good a country as the USA will give Romney/Ryan at least 45% of the votes Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2012, 01:29:48 PM »

What saddens me is that a wonderful country like Germany votes like DC Tongue

It saddens me that as good a country as the USA will give Romney/Ryan at least 45% of the votes Smiley

It saddens me that German right-wingers think that Obama espouses similar views to themselves.
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2012, 01:49:32 PM »

What saddens me is that a wonderful country like Germany votes like DC Tongue

What would someone like you find to like about Germany?
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2012, 11:22:19 PM »

What saddens me is that a wonderful country like Germany votes like DC Tongue

It saddens me that as good a country as the USA will give Romney/Ryan at least 45% of the votes Smiley

It saddens me that German right-wingers think that Obama espouses similar views to themselves.

Well, Obama has similar views to the German Conservatives, really.
There is a big decalage between European and American politics.
Someone running with Merkel policies in USA would be attacked for being a liberal.
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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2012, 05:39:21 AM »

     The $64,000 question: how can I resolve my teutophilia with their Obamaphilia? Tongue
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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2012, 11:24:22 AM »
« Edited: September 08, 2012, 11:26:15 AM by 後援会 »

Foreigners tend to give very whacky answers on political polls regarding other foreign countries. It's a very different experience, foreign politics and domestic politics. GOPers never do well in them, but Democrats tend to dominate expat communities, so I'm not particularly surprised. At least from what I've experienced, European immigrants in the USA seem to actually be somewhat more right-wing than the average American (or about where the average White American is).

Of course, I've seen this phenomenon not just in America. Americans in East Asian countries have a tendency of backing batsh**t insane parties out of lack of information/lack of understanding of the country.
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