Why do so many of you Democrats dislike Joe Liebermann?
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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2005, 08:05:41 AM »

I like Lieberman. He's a bit dull an' all that, but he seems like a nice guy.

I agree, Al

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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2005, 03:07:46 PM »

There is something wrong with a party where Al Sharpton gets more votes for President than Joe Liebermann.
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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2005, 03:18:09 PM »


 
4 and my absolute favorite, he supports instituting prayer into governmental affairs, as long as it involves God and not Jesus.  (He's doing the same to atheists and agnostics as right-wing Christians are doing to us Jews!)

And what are we doing to Jews, exactly?  I really want to hear this.

You're trampling on the rights of Jews as well as all other non-Christians by including prayers in governmental affairs.  I think the point here is that Leiberman is perfectly willing to allow you christians to rob atheists of their rights, as long as he can weedle some special treatment for the Jews.
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« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2005, 03:55:00 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2005, 03:58:23 PM by The Vorlon »

I like Joe for much the same reason I like a lot of the other maverick senators.

There is too much group think in both parties.

All my favorite senators are open to new ideas even if they are not the official party position.

Here is a list of Senators even remotely open to new ideas.  (some more remotely than others) The rest are pretty much groupthink animals.

Alexander, Lamar - (R - TN)
Allen, George - (R - VA) 
Bayh, Evan - (D - IN)
Chafee, Lincoln - (D - RI)   
Coleman, Norm - (R - MN)
Collins, Susan - (R - ME) 
Conrad, Kent - (D - ND)   
Dayton, Mark - (D - MN)
DeMint, Jim - (R - SC)   
DeWine, Mike - (R - OH)     
Graham, Lindsey - (R - SC)   
Gregg, Judd - (R - NH) 
Hagel, Chuck - (R - NE) 
Hutchison, Kay - (R - TX) 
Johnson, Tim - (D - SD)   
Kyl, Jon - (R - AZ)
Lieberman, Joseph - (D - CT)   
Santorum, Rick - (R - PA) 
Shelby, Richard - (R - AL)   
Smith, Gordon - (R - OR)   
Snowe, Olympia - (D - ME) 
Sununu, John - (R - NH)   
Talent, James - (R - MO)
Thune, John - (R - SD)
Wyden, Ron - (D - OR) 


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« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2005, 04:09:54 PM »

There is something wrong with a party where Al Sharpton gets more votes for President than Joe Liebermann.

That's not entirely fair: Lieberman dropped out early, while Sharpton carried on his bizarre Ego-fest all the way through...
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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2005, 06:05:13 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2005, 07:25:26 PM by Storebought »

I like Joe for much the same reason I like a lot of the other maverick senators.

There is too much group think in both parties.

All my favorite senators are open to new ideas even if they are not the official party position.

Here is a list of Senators even remotely open to new ideas.  (some more remotely than others) The rest are pretty much groupthink animals.

Alexander, Lamar - (R - TN)
Allen, George - (R - VA) 
Bayh, Evan - (D - IN)
Chafee, Lincoln - (D - RI)   
Coleman, Norm - (R - MN)
Collins, Susan - (R - ME) 
Conrad, Kent - (D - ND)   
Dayton, Mark - (D - MN)
DeMint, Jim - (R - SC)   
DeWine, Mike - (R - OH)     
Graham, Lindsey - (R - SC)   
Gregg, Judd - (R - NH) 
Hagel, Chuck - (R - NE) 
Hutchison, Kay - (R - TX) 
Johnson, Tim - (D - SD)   
Kyl, Jon - (R - AZ)
Lieberman, Joseph - (D - CT)   
Santorum, Rick - (R - PA) 
Shelby, Richard - (R - AL)   
Smith, Gordon - (R - OR)   
Snowe, Olympia - (D - ME) 
Sununu, John - (R - NH)   
Talent, James - (R - MO)
Thune, John - (R - SD)
Wyden, Ron - (D - OR) 




I see you've assigned the "correct" party lables to the senators you grudgingly respect, ex. Susan Collins (R-ME) vs Olympia Snowe (D-ME). It's even better that John McCain isn't on your list at all. 

Friendly suggestions: replace Hagel (McCain-NE) with Domenici (R-NM); Conrad with Ben Nelson (D-NE); Dayton with Salazar (D-CO), and your list will be perfect.
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« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2005, 09:46:40 PM »

There is something wrong with a party where Al Sharpton gets more votes for President than Joe Liebermann.

That's just because Al Sharpton dropped out long after he was dead in the water. Dropping out when you realize you're completely toast, like Lieberman did, costs you votes.
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« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2005, 09:48:14 PM »

I like Joe for much the same reason I like a lot of the other maverick senators.

There is too much group think in both parties.

All my favorite senators are open to new ideas even if they are not the official party position.

Here is a list of Senators even remotely open to new ideas.  (some more remotely than others) The rest are pretty much groupthink animals.

Alexander, Lamar - (R - TN)
Allen, George - (R - VA) 
Bayh, Evan - (D - IN)
Chafee, Lincoln - (D - RI)   
Coleman, Norm - (R - MN)
Collins, Susan - (R - ME) 
Conrad, Kent - (D - ND)   
Dayton, Mark - (D - MN)
DeMint, Jim - (R - SC)   
DeWine, Mike - (R - OH)     
Graham, Lindsey - (R - SC)   
Gregg, Judd - (R - NH) 
Hagel, Chuck - (R - NE) 
Hutchison, Kay - (R - TX) 
Johnson, Tim - (D - SD)   
Kyl, Jon - (R - AZ)
Lieberman, Joseph - (D - CT)   
Santorum, Rick - (R - PA) 
Shelby, Richard - (R - AL)   
Smith, Gordon - (R - OR)   
Snowe, Olympia - (D - ME) 
Sununu, John - (R - NH)   
Talent, James - (R - MO)
Thune, John - (R - SD)
Wyden, Ron - (D - OR) 




I see you've assigned the "correct" party lables to the senators you grudgingly respect, ex. Susan Collins (R-ME) vs Olympia Snowe (D-ME). It's even better that John McCain isn't on your list at all. 

Friendly suggestions: replace Hagel (McCain-NE) with Domenici (R-NM); Conrad with Ben Nelson (D-NE); Dayton with Salazar (D-CO), and your list will be perfect.

Salazar is very bright.  But he has no record yet of actually being a senator, but he and also Baraka O'Bama show great potential to bridge gaps and reach out.  Give those two a "not yet rated" stamp.  Campaign rhetoric is one thing, actual votes in the Senate is another.

Ben Nelson is also a good senator, he's actually a moderate Republican despite the party label, but a good and decent fellow.

Dominichi is a tad to dogmatic for my taste.

Hagels "ok" but yes he has a streak of McCain in him, unfortunately.
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« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2005, 01:30:34 PM »

What do ya think of Feingold, Vorlon?  Other than that you'll never vote for him Wink  Off topic, but I'll go out ever so slightly on a limb and say he'll be a real dark horse in '08.
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« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2005, 01:32:53 PM »

There is something wrong with a party where Al Sharpton gets more votes for President than Joe Liebermann.

you can't really directly compare them since Lieberman dropped out after mini-Supter Tuesday. While he was running, Sharpton didn't beat him in a single state. And I might I add that Gephardt got more votes than Sharpton in NH, after he dropped out!
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« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2005, 02:28:37 PM »


 
4 and my absolute favorite, he supports instituting prayer into governmental affairs, as long as it involves God and not Jesus.  (He's doing the same to atheists and agnostics as right-wing Christians are doing to us Jews!)

And what are we doing to Jews, exactly?  I really want to hear this.

You're trampling on the rights of Jews as well as all other non-Christians by including prayers in governmental affairs.  I think the point here is that Leiberman is perfectly willing to allow you christians to rob atheists of their rights, as long as he can weedle some special treatment for the Jews.

Exactly.
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« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2005, 03:13:46 PM »

What do ya think of Feingold, Vorlon?  Other than that you'll never vote for him Wink  Off topic, but I'll go out ever so slightly on a limb and say he'll be a real dark horse in '08.

Feingold is a decent, hardworking, honorable man.

I think he is wrong on a vast number of economic and foreign affairs issues, mostly correct on a lot of social issues.

he is, however, rather set in his views and idealogy and a tad too dogmatic for me. => even on issues I actually agree with himon, I find him harsh and grating
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« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2014, 04:03:35 AM »

Well we've got quite a few reasons now...
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« Reply #38 on: July 23, 2014, 02:52:03 AM »

Well we've got quite a few reasons now...
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« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2014, 11:03:57 AM »

Well we've got quite a few reasons now...

Was there any reason to bump this?
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