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« on: June 28, 2012, 11:48:09 AM »
« edited: June 28, 2012, 03:17:03 PM by True Federalist »

I just donated $100 to Romney for President.
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2012, 11:49:54 AM »

I just donated $100 to Romney for President.

if you're like that at 18 I shudder to think of you at 38!
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2012, 06:14:38 PM »

I spent all day smoking and listening to John Lee Hooker with friends...
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2012, 06:23:39 PM »

I just donated $100 to Romney for President.

Do your parents know you're wasting their money on this sh**?
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2012, 06:28:23 PM »

I just donated $100 to Romney for President.

Ah, that's obviously money well spent.
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012, 06:36:31 PM »

The health care thing?

I saw the news on AJE, and went "huh, that's interesting I guess."
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 06:38:05 PM »

I just donated $100 to Romney for President.

Mittens Romney would like to personally thank you for donating what he earns in 10 seconds.

Thanks again;
Mitt
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2012, 06:40:48 PM »

I just donated $100 to Romney for President.
What the fuck, man?
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2012, 06:41:56 PM »

I just donated $100 to Romney for President.

Aren't you going to college in like two months? That's ~7 cubes of Keystone or Natty Ice you could have bought. Crazy, brah.
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2012, 06:54:04 PM »

Got more confident that the President will still be the President this time next year.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2012, 07:45:20 PM »

Saw it, thought "Eh, we need a new Congress and a new President. Guess we need a new Court too." and went on with my day.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2012, 11:32:49 PM »

I was pretty jaded already. It was pleasant not to have the whole law struck down but I was mildly disappointed the punishment for not buying private insurance didn't go. I still want new reforms and this decision doesn't bode well for it, really. On the whole though it's alright for now. Aside from that, I don't particularly care about how the Constitution is being interpreted.
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2012, 12:28:38 AM »

I just donated $100 to Romney for President.

Aren't you going to college in like two months? That's ~7 cubes of Keystone or Natty Ice you could have bought. Crazy, brah.
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2012, 12:40:00 AM »

I weep for the future
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2012, 04:27:42 AM »

I support the decision but it doesn't change the fact that the policy is awful and only a small step above the past health care system.
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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2012, 04:46:50 AM »

I support the decision but it doesn't change the fact that the policy is awful and only a small step above the past health care system.

This.
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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2012, 03:28:04 PM »

First reaction: I don't know why I'm crying. Am I suspended in gaffa?
Second reaction: Wait, Roberts?!
Third reaction: See TheDeadFlagBlues and Antonio.
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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2012, 03:32:56 PM »

Positively surprised.
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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2012, 06:26:46 PM »

First reaction: I don't know why I'm crying. Am I suspended in gaffa?
Second reaction: Wait, Roberts?!
Third reaction: See TheDeadFlagBlues and Antonio.
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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2012, 06:30:06 PM »

Initially I was kinda bummed. Then I remembered that this piece of legislation isn't all that significant.
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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2012, 09:06:15 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2012, 09:16:29 PM »

Liberals/lefties who act like this bill is pointless because it's not left-wing enough for them really annoy me. The point of passing social policy like this is not to prove a point or something, it's to help people and make society better. This bill does that. It expands health insurance coverage to tens of millions of people who didn't have it before. Those are real people, real human beings who can now afford to go to the doctor and treat diseases and ailments that they couldn't before. This policy is only "awful" to idealistic middle-class left-wingers on the internet who are completely removed from the reality of the people whose lives will be materially better because of this legislation.
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« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2012, 10:23:50 PM »

Liberals/lefties who act like this bill is pointless because it's not left-wing enough for them really annoy me. The point of passing social policy like this is not to prove a point or something, it's to help people and make society better. This bill does that. It expands health insurance coverage to tens of millions of people who didn't have it before. Those are real people, real human beings who can now afford to go to the doctor and treat diseases and ailments that they couldn't before. This policy is only "awful" to idealistic middle-class left-wingers on the internet who are completely removed from the reality of the people whose lives will be materially better because of this legislation.

as an avowed left-totalitarian who will not be voting for Obama, I wholeheartedly concur, but: don't discount the symbolic value of PPACA.  Zizek speaks on this, I can't find it right now.  point is it strikes at the heart of the prevailing ideological headwinds of the past 31+ years: in a world of pain and privatization, one small step.

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« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2012, 11:25:13 PM »

I support the decision but it doesn't change the fact that the policy is awful and only a small step above the past health care system.

This, but honestly when I heard about it I was all "alright, cool. Now the Supreme Court won't whine about single-payer when it finally happens."
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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2012, 04:51:56 AM »

Liberals/lefties who act like this bill is pointless because it's not left-wing enough for them really annoy me. The point of passing social policy like this is not to prove a point or something, it's to help people and make society better. This bill does that. It expands health insurance coverage to tens of millions of people who didn't have it before. Those are real people, real human beings who can now afford to go to the doctor and treat diseases and ailments that they couldn't before. This policy is only "awful" to idealistic middle-class left-wingers on the internet who are completely removed from the reality of the people whose lives will be materially better because of this legislation.

I actually fully agree with this post. When I looked back on my initial thoughts, I was surprised that I said something so harsh against a piece of legislation that I still zealously defend because of the major impacts it will make in the lives of millions. It's one of the few reasons that I'm proud to consider myself a Democrat and an Obama supporter at this point.  At the same time though, do you honestly think that this bill was constructed well as far as long term policy goes? My concerns aren't that it doesn't introduce a single player system or a public option (it was moronic to expect that to happen), my concerns are that it doesn't properly address the skyrocketing costs of care that are strangling the system and that "Obamacare" is doomed to failure in the same way that the health care system would be without it.
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