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« Reply #1650 on: April 19, 2013, 03:05:34 PM »
« edited: April 19, 2013, 03:08:17 PM by RogueBeaver »

PD senator just tweeted that Bersani will resign! Cheesy  Once a new president is elected. So find a freakin' name already.
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« Reply #1651 on: April 19, 2013, 03:17:25 PM »

PD senator just tweeted that Bersani will resign! Cheesy  Once a new president is elected. So find a freakin' name already.

It begins with "Future" and ends with "loser".
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« Reply #1652 on: April 19, 2013, 03:23:06 PM »

Rodotà is the only way to go.
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« Reply #1653 on: April 19, 2013, 03:26:23 PM »

Who's that? Anyways, I'm guessing Bersani's resignation automatically triggers the primary process upon taking effect? To be scheduled by the party executive obviously.
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« Reply #1654 on: April 19, 2013, 03:28:47 PM »


The M5S/SEL (for the first few rounds) candidate that has been coming in first or second the whole time.  Tongue
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« Reply #1655 on: April 19, 2013, 03:30:57 PM »

Question is will PD take that advice or go back to Berlusconi? I read Grillo's English blog post on it and for once he made sense. Dunno why PD didn't go with Rodota from the outset... except that their soon-to-be-ex leader is a political moron.
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« Reply #1656 on: April 19, 2013, 03:33:04 PM »

He has officially resigned. Thanks for doing the right thing, even if a little late.
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« Reply #1657 on: April 19, 2013, 03:34:54 PM »

Damn. Let's see if a Bersani-backed stooge can win the primary.
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« Reply #1658 on: April 19, 2013, 03:35:18 PM »

The person who allegedly schemed to sink Prodi is the infamous Massimo d'Alema. What a piece of sh*t.
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« Reply #1659 on: April 19, 2013, 03:37:06 PM »

The person who allegedly schemed to sink Prodi is the infamous Massimo d'Alema. What a piece of sh*t.

Weren't they like best buddies? And I'm talking recently...
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« Reply #1660 on: April 19, 2013, 03:38:03 PM »

The person who allegedly schemed to sink Prodi is the infamous Massimo d'Alema. What a piece of sh*t.

The POS got Bersani to resign by sinking Prodi. So not all bad. Now if the presidency can be resolved ASAP, then primaries can kick off.
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« Reply #1661 on: April 19, 2013, 03:39:47 PM »

PD will cast blank ballots in tomorrow's vote. Dunno why.
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« Reply #1662 on: April 19, 2013, 03:49:57 PM »

Berlusconi said he's open to a joint candidate. So decide whether they can get enough votes for a deal with him or enough for Rodota, then vote.
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« Reply #1663 on: April 19, 2013, 03:50:18 PM »

If Grillo supports anyone he loses all his credibility.
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« Reply #1664 on: April 19, 2013, 03:51:31 PM »


Tongue

Rodotà won his party's online poll.
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« Reply #1665 on: April 19, 2013, 03:52:44 PM »

The person who allegedly schemed to sink Prodi is the infamous Massimo d'Alema. What a piece of sh*t.

The POS got Bersani to resign by sinking Prodi. So not all bad. Now if the presidency can be resolved ASAP, then primaries can kick off.

Bersani wasn't really the problem. The problem is the scheming party hacks behind him, of which D'Alema is the most prominent representative.
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« Reply #1666 on: April 19, 2013, 03:55:15 PM »

Even if all of them had voted for Prodi he still wouldn't have won. Bersani's the one who blew a 10-point lead and then blew the presidential negotiations... but yeah, in a larger sense I agree that he's the symptom and not the cause.
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« Reply #1667 on: April 19, 2013, 04:03:24 PM »

PdL will also be casting blank ballots tomorrow. Can't find a candidate quickly enough, or some other reason?
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« Reply #1668 on: April 19, 2013, 07:56:17 PM »

I'm pretty sure that the real problem is that the Second Republic has only a little more credibility than the First now.
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« Reply #1669 on: April 19, 2013, 09:03:08 PM »

I'm pretty sure that the real problem is that the Second Republic has only a little more credibility than the First now.

Probably less, actually. I am pretty sure contempt for the political class is higher today than it was in 1992, and that's saying something.
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« Reply #1670 on: April 20, 2013, 07:11:26 AM »

Whoa: Reports that Napolitano will accept a second term- whether a full one or merely an extension is unclear. He wants Amato as an interim PM or elected President as a condition. Might push the election back to autumn or next spring.
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« Reply #1671 on: April 20, 2013, 07:23:27 AM »

Napolitano has accepted. Cheesy
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« Reply #1672 on: April 20, 2013, 07:42:03 AM »

Yikes!
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« Reply #1673 on: April 20, 2013, 07:42:23 AM »

Wow.

How would an "extension" work?
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« Reply #1674 on: April 20, 2013, 08:01:01 AM »

I guess he resigns partway into the new term, I highly doubt he'll be there till he's 94. Barca doesn't like the idea, ass that he is.
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