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« on: December 12, 2008, 09:54:57 PM »

What would the political effects in the United States be if any of these events or trends occur over the next four years.

-Current economic recession becomes a depression

-Oil and fuel prices shoot up higher then before

-The big three American auto corporations go bankrupt

- There is a major scandal in the Obama Administration or among the Democrats in general

- Another terrorist attack occurs on US interests at home or aboard

-The sititution in central/South Asia gets worse

 and so much more

So what could happen politically under these conditions?   
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2008, 03:19:24 AM »

This is obvious. Under such situations the Republicans would regain everything by 2012.
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2008, 12:54:29 PM »

This is obvious. Under such situations the Republicans would regain everything by 2012.

And who would win the presidency?
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2008, 01:19:31 PM »

US self-implodes and is absorbed by China.

No seriously, I believe maybe Obama would have a challenge from Secretary Clinton, or maybe a Moderate buisness oriented democrat, (Mark Warner, perhaps, though that is not his personality)

The Republicans would nominate Mitt Romney, due to his buisness expertise. Mitt picks a heavyweight on foreign affairs and the republicans win in a landslide. Obama is not seen in 2012 as a figure of hope and change, but a likeness of Pity and Disgust.
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2008, 02:02:34 PM »

US self-implodes and is absorbed by China.

No seriously, I believe maybe Obama would have a challenge from Secretary Clinton, or maybe a Moderate buisness oriented democrat, (Mark Warner, perhaps, though that is not his personality)

The Republicans would nominate Mitt Romney, due to his buisness expertise. Mitt picks a heavyweight on foreign affairs and the republicans win in a landslide. Obama is not seen in 2012 as a figure of hope and change, but a likeness of Pity and Disgust.

At face value, I see 2012 paralelling 1996.
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2008, 04:04:28 PM »

US self-implodes and is absorbed by China.

No seriously, I believe maybe Obama would have a challenge from Secretary Clinton, or maybe a Moderate buisness oriented democrat, (Mark Warner, perhaps, though that is not his personality)

The Republicans would nominate Mitt Romney, due to his buisness expertise. Mitt picks a heavyweight on foreign affairs and the republicans win in a landslide. Obama is not seen in 2012 as a figure of hope and change, but a likeness of Pity and Disgust.

no I agree, but this is persuming that situation. I think Obama will fix our problems.
At face value, I see 2012 paralelling 1996.
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2008, 06:36:52 PM »

This is obvious. Under such situations the Republicans would regain everything by 2012.

And who would win the presidency?

Obviously, whoever is the Republican nominee. You probably are already aware of who I predict it will be.
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2008, 11:56:44 PM »

This is obvious. Under such situations the Republicans would regain everything by 2012.

And who would win the presidency?

Obviously, whoever is the Republican nominee. You probably are already aware of who I predict it will be.

Mike Huckabee?
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2009, 06:15:17 AM »

What would the political effects in the United States be if any of these events or trends occur over the next four years.

-Current economic recession becomes a depression

-Oil and fuel prices shoot up higher then before

-The big three American auto corporations go bankrupt

- There is a major scandal in the Obama Administration or among the Democrats in general

- Another terrorist attack occurs on US interests at home or aboard

-The situation in central/South Asia gets worse

 and so much more

So what could happen politically under these conditions?   

The GOP wins everything back and are able to establish the Christian and Corporate State of their dreams.

Now ask yourself what happens if:

-- An unambiguous, if slow, recovery begins.

-- Fuel prices are stable, or at least rise only as fast as personal income.

-- US automakers remain solvent.

-- Iraq and Afghanistan become more stable.

-- Anti-American sentiment weakens.

-- Piracy in Somalia comes to the end as the result of joint American-Russian-Chinese military actions.

-- Poverty abates in America.

... Change the assumptions, and you change everything.

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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 09:02:12 PM »

What would the political effects in the United States be if any of these events or trends occur over the next four years.

-Current economic recession becomes a depression

-Oil and fuel prices shoot up higher then before

-The big three American auto corporations go bankrupt

- There is a major scandal in the Obama Administration or among the Democrats in general

- Another terrorist attack occurs on US interests at home or aboard

-The sititution in central/South Asia gets worse

 and so much more

So what could happen politically under these conditions?   
I will do each seperatley because they will never happen combined.
Economic Depression:

(This map mixes Huckabee, Palin and Romney together as candidates)

Fuel Prices:

(This one is hard because I assumed an economic recovery to go with it)

Big three auto corporations go bankrupt:

(I assumed a small economic recovery and a mix of Republican candidates)

Major Scandal:

(I assumed a big economic recovery and a Lewinsky type scandal for Obama)

Terrorist Attack:

(I assumed a big economic recovery and a Madrid train bombing type terrorist attack)
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2009, 04:37:30 PM »


Terrorist Attack:

(I assumed a big economic recovery and a Madrid train bombing type terrorist attack)

It looks as if you believe that Obama would be the right President for meeting a terrorist attack -- which is consistent with his talents.

Let's hope that we don't find out the hard way.
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2009, 05:54:02 PM »

He's definitely proving himself with Pakistan.
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2009, 03:21:24 PM »

What would the political effects in the United States be if any of these events or trends occur over the next four years.

-Current economic recession becomes a depression

-Oil and fuel prices shoot up higher then before

-The big three American auto corporations go bankrupt

- There is a major scandal in the Obama Administration or among the Democrats in general

- Another terrorist attack occurs on US interests at home or aboard

-The sititution in central/South Asia gets worse

 and so much more

So what could happen politically under these conditions?   
I will do each seperatley because they will never happen combined.
Economic Depression:

(This map mixes Huckabee, Palin and Romney together as candidates)

Fuel Prices:

(This one is hard because I assumed an economic recovery to go with it)

Big three auto corporations go bankrupt:

(I assumed a small economic recovery and a mix of Republican candidates)

Major Scandal:

(I assumed a big economic recovery and a Lewinsky type scandal for Obama)

Terrorist Attack:

(I assumed a big economic recovery and a Madrid train bombing type terrorist attack)

Really? Basically the only way we loses is if we enter a depression, and it isn't even a landslide?

He still wins comfortably even with a major scandal? The Clinton scandal was hardly major ..

I think the economy will turn around before 2012 and we'll be reelecting him, but if we were to somehow relapse into a depression beforehand, he would lose by a lot worse than your map unless we nominate Palin or someone in her folksy, populist mold.
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2009, 02:13:20 AM »

What would the political effects in the United States be if any of these events or trends occur over the next four years.

-Current economic recession becomes a depression

-Oil and fuel prices shoot up higher then before

-The big three American auto corporations go bankrupt

- There is a major scandal in the Obama Administration or among the Democrats in general

- Another terrorist attack occurs on US interests at home or aboard

-The sititution in central/South Asia gets worse

 and so much more

So what could happen politically under these conditions?   
I will do each seperatley because they will never happen combined.
Economic Depression:

(This map mixes Huckabee, Palin and Romney together as candidates)

Fuel Prices:

(This one is hard because I assumed an economic recovery to go with it)

Big three auto corporations go bankrupt:

(I assumed a small economic recovery and a mix of Republican candidates)

Major Scandal:

(I assumed a big economic recovery and a Lewinsky type scandal for Obama)

Terrorist Attack:

(I assumed a big economic recovery and a Madrid train bombing type terrorist attack)

Really? Basically the only way we loses is if we enter a depression, and it isn't even a landslide?

He still wins comfortably even with a major scandal? The Clinton scandal was hardly major ..

I think the economy will turn around before 2012 and we'll be reelecting him, but if we were to somehow relapse into a depression beforehand, he would lose by a lot worse than your map unless we nominate Palin or someone in her folksy, populist mold.
I was being pretty optimistic but I also assumed you guys nominated incompetent nominees 2 out of 3 times so that always hurts. I also assumed Obama always had the upper edge at campaigning.
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