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Question: Will Iceland and Norway ever join the EU?
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« Reply #1150 on: February 29, 2020, 08:13:56 AM »

Finland's Ministry of Education and Culture has cancelled the public funding granted to the Finns Party's youth organisation because of a tweet the organisation sent last month. The tweet in question, later deleted, included a screencaption from a European Parliament ad that depicted black people; the youth organisation had added a text which exhorted people to vote for the Finns Party "so that Finland's future won't look like this".

Finns Party leader Jussi Halla-aho criticized the youth wing for this tweet. There are some echoes from the conflict between the Sweden Democrats and their youth wing some years ago. It should be noted that the Finns Party youth organisation has a curious arrangement where one can be their member without being a member of the party proper.

The relations between the Finns Party and the Finns Party Youth have now come to a breaking point. A few days ago the youth organisation's deputy chair was forced to resign after a video emerged of a speech where he introduced himself as "an ethnic nationalist, a traditionalist and a fascist". Then today the youth organisation rejected a rule change which would have limited its membership to members of the party proper. That rule change had been demanded by the Finns Party, and it now seems that the party will do what the Sweden Democrats did and formally sever links with the youth organisation.
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« Reply #1151 on: May 07, 2020, 05:26:53 AM »

After leading the polls for nearly a year following the 2019 election, Finns Party has lost support, and Sanna Marin's Social Democrats have taken a clear lead in the polls.

This despite the fact that the Finns Party had advocated a very tough line on the coronavirus pandemic, demanding that schools be closed two weeks before the government closed them, and suggesting a curfew which the government never ordered. Apparently the people are content with the less strict measures chosen by the Marin government.
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« Reply #1152 on: June 04, 2020, 12:34:21 PM »

Finns Party kick out one of their MPs after he tweeted a meme that mocked George Floyd.
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« Reply #1153 on: June 05, 2020, 09:51:51 AM »
« Edited: June 05, 2020, 12:38:21 PM by Helsinkian »

Finland's Finance Minister, Katri Kulmuni (Center), resigns following a scandal revolving around her decision to use public funds to pay for personal consulting bills. Last December Kulmuni played an important role in ousting Prime Minister Rinne.
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« Reply #1154 on: June 08, 2020, 04:04:43 AM »

Finland's Finance Minister, Katri Kulmuni (Center), resigns following a scandal revolving around her decision to use public funds to pay for personal consulting bills. Last December Kulmuni played an important role in ousting Prime Minister Rinne.

In a "blast from the past", Matti Vanhanen, who was Prime Minister from 2003 to 2010, will be the new Finance Minister.
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« Reply #1155 on: June 26, 2020, 01:08:52 PM »

The Finnish Parliament has rejected the state prosecutor's request to lift the parliamentary immunity of the Finns Party MP Juho Mäenpää. The prosecutor wanted to indict Mäenpää of incitement for his speech in the parliament where he used the term "invasive species" in a way that was interpreted as referring to asylum seekers.

121 MPs voted to lift the immunity, with 54 voting against, but this fell short of the five-sixths supermajority required. This was only the fourth time in the parliament's history when MPs had to consider a request to remove an MP's immunity. The previous attempts also failed. The immunity applies only to speeches made in parliament; if Mäenpää had made the speech outside the parliament, the immunity would not have applied.
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« Reply #1156 on: August 29, 2020, 03:12:56 PM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53959492

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Protesters against the burning of a Koran by far-right supporters in Sweden have clashed with police during several hours of rioting.

Cars were set on fire and shop fronts were damaged in the clashes in the southern city of Malmö which have now been brought under control. There were several arrests.

Earlier in the day, the Swedish Government had banned Danish Politician Rasmus Paludan, head of the Stram Kurs (Hard Line) political Party from entering the country. He had planned to attend the Koran burning.
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« Reply #1157 on: August 30, 2020, 08:42:46 AM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53959492

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Protesters against the burning of a Koran by far-right supporters in Sweden have clashed with police during several hours of rioting.

Cars were set on fire and shop fronts were damaged in the clashes in the southern city of Malmö which have now been brought under control. There were several arrests.

Earlier in the day, the Swedish Government had banned Danish Politician Rasmus Paludan, head of the Stram Kurs (Hard Line) political Party from entering the country. He had planned to attend the Koran burning.

Interesting fact Rasmus Paludan have a Swedish father, so Swedish police have administrative banned a man with a right to Swedish citizenship if he so wish from entering Sweden.
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« Reply #1158 on: October 08, 2020, 03:04:34 PM »

https://www.foxnews.com/world/finnish-teen-takes-over-as-prime-minister-for-a-day-to-raise-awareness-on-gender-equality

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A 16-year-old girl ceremoniously assumed the post of Finnish prime minister for one day for the “Girls Takeover” program — part of the U.N. International Day of the Girl to raise more awareness of gender equality.


Aava Murto from the small village of Vaaksy in southern Finland stepped into the shoes of Prime Minister Sanna Marin on Wednesday to highlight the impact of technology on gender equality, this year’s theme for the annual event, the Finnish government said.
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« Reply #1159 on: October 14, 2020, 09:56:52 AM »
« Edited: October 14, 2020, 08:16:36 PM by NewYorkExpress »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/13/world/denmark-mink-farms-covid-trnd/index.html

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The Danish government has ordered the country's mink farms to cull over 1 million mink due to a series of Covid-19 outbreaks among the animals.

The current outbreak is believed to have started in late June when a Covid-19 patient was associated with a mink farm in North Jutland, according to a report by the USDA's Foreign Agricultural Service. The disease was found to have spread to the mink after the Danish Patient Safety Authority had samples taken from 34 of the farm's animals.

The government began to introduce measures in the summer to limit the spread of Covid-19 on mink farms, but the number of cases dramatically increased in September.

By early October, mink on nearly 60 farms in North Jutland alone had tested positive for Covid-19 and another 46 were under suspicion, according to Mogens Jensen, the Danish Minister of Food, Agriculture and Fisheries.
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« Reply #1160 on: October 22, 2020, 05:57:47 AM »

Sweden still won’t pass a mask law.
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« Reply #1161 on: October 22, 2020, 07:03:28 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/20/europe/iceland-earthquake-interview-scli-intl/index.html

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Iceland's Prime Minister was interrupted by an earthquake while filming an interview on Tuesday -- but managed to shrug off the intrusion and finish her answer.

Katrin Jakobsdottir was discussing the impact of the pandemic on tourism with the Washington Post when her house started to shake, visibly startling the Icelandic leader.

"Oh my god, there's an earthquake," she said with a gasp. "Sorry, there was an earthquake right now. Wow."

But Jakobsdottir quickly pivoted back to the matter at hand, laughing: "Well this is Iceland" and continuing her response to the question.

"Yes I'm perfectly fine, the house is still strong, so no worries," she later added.
Jakobsdottir, 44, has been Iceland's Prime Minister since 2017.

The 5.6 magnitude earthquake struck on Tuesday afternoon 10 kilometers southwest of Hafnarfjordur, a coastal town near the capital of Reykjavík, according to the United States Geological Survey, which measures quakes worldwide.


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« Reply #1162 on: November 18, 2020, 12:17:22 PM »

Denmark's Food and Agriculture Minister, Mogens Jensen, resigns over a mink-culling plan that the Danish Government didn't get approval for.

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Denmark’s minister for food and agriculture resigned Wednesday after the government admitted it did not have the right to order the culling of all farmed mink without having the necessary legislation in place first.

The culling had been ordered after a mutated version of the coronavirus was found in some farms and had infected people.

There is no evidence the mutated version is more dangerous but the country acted quickly out of safety — though it lacked the legal basis to also order the killing of healthy animals.

“I have today informed the prime minister that I want to resign from the government,” said the 57-year-old minister, Mogens Jensen.
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« Reply #1163 on: November 20, 2020, 11:41:08 AM »

Sweden still won’t pass a mask law.

It's interesting that starting in August, I began seeing more and more people wearing masks on their own, and every month more people start wearing them.

Overwhelmingly it's younger people in their 20s, followed by older people, but very few other groups wear them. Meanwhile, public transit gets progressively more crowded every week, and we're seemingly almost at pre-COVID levels
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« Reply #1164 on: November 20, 2020, 04:13:25 PM »

Sweden still won’t pass a mask law.

It's interesting that starting in August, I began seeing more and more people wearing masks on their own, and every month more people start wearing them.

Overwhelmingly it's younger people in their 20s, followed by older people, but very few other groups wear them. Meanwhile, public transit gets progressively more crowded every week, and we're seemingly almost at pre-COVID levels
Even with case numbers rising?
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« Reply #1165 on: November 20, 2020, 05:21:30 PM »

Sweden still won’t pass a mask law.

It's interesting that starting in August, I began seeing more and more people wearing masks on their own, and every month more people start wearing them.

Overwhelmingly it's younger people in their 20s, followed by older people, but very few other groups wear them. Meanwhile, public transit gets progressively more crowded every week, and we're seemingly almost at pre-COVID levels
Even with case numbers rising?

Yes. While Stockholm was basically a ghost town between March 17th and end of May, by June there was a small bump in activity, then back to a ghost town in July during the summer holidays, but then in August people returned to the city and through the end of October it felt like COVID was just not a thing. We were almost back to January 2020 levels of activity.

But over the past month the warnings have gotten more and more shrill/urgent with stricter limitations, and I think people are starting to get a bit scared again. But I doubt we'll go back to the level of caution that existed in the March - June period.
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« Reply #1166 on: November 21, 2020, 07:25:04 AM »

Sweden still won’t pass a mask law.

It's interesting that starting in August, I began seeing more and more people wearing masks on their own, and every month more people start wearing them.

Overwhelmingly it's younger people in their 20s, followed by older people, but very few other groups wear them. Meanwhile, public transit gets progressively more crowded every week, and we're seemingly almost at pre-COVID levels
Even with case numbers rising?

Yes. While Stockholm was basically a ghost town between March 17th and end of May, by June there was a small bump in activity, then back to a ghost town in July during the summer holidays, but then in August people returned to the city and through the end of October it felt like COVID was just not a thing. We were almost back to January 2020 levels of activity.

But over the past month the warnings have gotten more and more shrill/urgent with stricter limitations, and I think people are starting to get a bit scared again. But I doubt we'll go back to the level of caution that existed in the March - June period.

That seems to be a problem in most countries.
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« Reply #1167 on: January 15, 2021, 12:22:50 PM »
« Edited: January 16, 2021, 06:02:04 PM by NewYorkExpress »

Former Danish Immigration Minister Inger Stojberg is facing the first political trial in Denmark in three decades.

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Denmark will hold its first political trial in three decades after the country's ruling party supported a vote in parliament to try a former immigration minister.

Inger Støjberg served as Denmark's immigration minister from 2015 to 2019.


In 2016, she issued an order to separate asylum-seeking couples where one of the pair was under the age of 18.

The order separated 23 married couples, some of whom had one or more children together, before being halted.


The Danish Parliamentary Ombudsman later found the order was illegal as it did not allow authorities to individually assess or consult those affected.

Støjberg has denied knowingly breaking the law and says the policy was aimed to prevent child marriages in the country. An investigation into the so-called "child bride case" led to her resignation as vice-president of the Liberal Party.


The move by the Social Democrats meant that a majority of the 179-seat Folketing was in favour of Støjberg facing the rarely used Court of Impeachment.

Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said in a statement that the party supported the motion "on the basis of the clear legal assessments".

Now a majority in parliament has decided the minister should face trial, Støjberg cannot appeal. If convicted, she faces a fine or maximum prison sentence of two years.

Earlier this month, lawyers appointed by parliament had said that there was a legal basis to charge Støjberg after a commission report said the order was "clearly illegal".
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« Reply #1168 on: February 05, 2021, 09:14:51 AM »

SWEDEN

The Moderate Party introduced a labor immigration proposal for non-EU workers:

  • only granting a work permit if the agreed upon salary exceeds the average monthly wage for all of Sweden (currently 31,000 SEK per month, or approximately $3800 per month).
  • Implementing a grant ceiling for those on work permits
  • Remove the possibility that those who submit an asylum application and are rejected can then apply for a work visa, citing the time they've already lived in Sweden
  • Deny work permits for those applying for "personal assistant" jobs, since this category is abused and associated with crime and trafficking
  • New maintenance requirements for those who wish to bring their families along with them
  • New requirement for employers to submit a copy of an employment contracts along with work permit applications to help ensure they stick to legitimate working conditions

For the most part I don't really have any problems with these proposals, other than two very specific things:

1. The proposed minimum salary of 31,000 SEK is a bit high. I agree that the current salary requirement of 13,000 SEK / month is absurdly low, but a more reasonable minimum would be closer to 25,000 per month or so. Right now a lot of jobs that have shortages (especially healthcare and elderly care) pay between 25,000 and 30,000 SEK, so the situation in these areas would be made even worse if there is no mitigating proposal to raise wages in this sector. Furthermore, 25,000 SEK per month is not actually a bad salary, and outside of major cities, that's actually quite a solid middle class salary for one person. The 31,000 per month suggestion is too "one size fits all", which makes no sense given the extreme cost of living differences between the big cities and the rest of the country. Furthermore, the rural regions are the places where the worker shortages are most extreme and also have larger budget constraints compared to wealthier cities.

2. The maintenance requirement for families is weirdly specific and rigid. I have no qualms with the salary requirements for families, but the proposal also mandates what kind of living space you need to have. I'm not really sure how this is going to actually be enforced, unless Sweden starts sending police to people's homes to check in on them, which is absurd and a huge waste of time and resources. It reminds me of the drug testing of welfare recipients here in the U.S. that's part of being "tough on deadbeats" that ends up costing far more money than it saves.

The Swedish Trade Union Confederation (LO) and Federation of Business Owners (Företagarna) are both very positive towards these proposals, with LO suggesting issuing permits based upon a limited list of career categories to prevent saturation of lower-skilled, lower-paying jobs, while Företagarna criticized the proposed "talent visa" as being a useless tourist visa since applicants can't start working on it and the requirement for a masters degree is too restrictive, and says that professional experience and other qualitative characteristics should be taken into account. They also said the 31,000 SEK per month salary minimum was too high, given that it's equivalent to a starting salary in Stockholm for someone with a masters degree.

The Work Permit Holders Association welcomed the proposals, but also criticized the maintenance requirements regarding housing as being needlessly blunt, and said the proposals to stop the deportation of talented workers over minor administrative errors were too vague and not good enough. They also lamented the lack of any proposal to deal with work permit holders who lost their jobs due to COVID-19, lack of clarification regarding how probationary periods are treated, and the lack of anything to improve the situation with the Migration Agency, which is known for being bureaucratic, arbitrary, punitive, slow-moving, and generally just difficult to deal with all around.
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« Reply #1169 on: March 06, 2021, 10:15:17 AM »

Finland was supposed to hold a municipal election on 18 April, but now it is being postponed to 13 June due to rising Covid cases. The decision was criticised by the Finns Party but backed by the other parties. The Finns Party noted that the government had a whole year to prepare for the election and did not do much.

The decision goes against the European trend; while several elections were postponed in the spring of 2020, when the Covid situation was new to everyone, almost all elections scheduled after that have been held.
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« Reply #1170 on: May 14, 2021, 02:20:31 PM »
« Edited: May 18, 2021, 07:03:23 AM by Helsinkian »

Some drama in the Finnish Parliament regarding the passage of the European Union's "NextGenerationEU" stimulus package.

Earlier, the parliament's constitutional law committee had decided that the package needs to be approved with a two-thirds majority, as it involves a major concession of powers to the union. The National Coalition Party, typically very pro-EU but now in opposition, announced that they would abstain from voting. This would have given the government a two-thirds majority for the package, as abstaining is treated as if one were absent from the vote. However, the NCP's decision was slammed as spineless by both anti-EU and pro-EU people, and the party reconsidered its stance and allowed its MPs a free vote on the matter. Though a few NCP MPs will vote against the package, most of them will vote in favour, giving it the two-thirds majority.

With the package's passing seeming assured, the vote was supposed to happen on wednesday. However, MPs of the anti-EU Finns Party have been filibustering -- the Finnish Parliament puts no limit on how long a debate can last, and the 38 Finns Party MPs keep asking for the floor over and over again, with debates going to 4 AM and continuing the next day. Adding to the controversy, the Deputy Speaker Juho Eerola (Finns Party) hinted that if he were presiding over such a late hours debate, which often has a temporary Finns Party majority (with other parties' MPs in their offices or at home), he might be tempted to use it for his party's advantage by approving a motion to delay the whole matter until autumn. There is a gentleman's agreement not to abuse such temporary majorities, and the Speaker announced that Eerola would no longer be presiding during the debates on this matter.

The filibustering has taken on some odd features, as the Finns Party MPs are searching for more material to speak about. One MP read the "Little Riding Hood" from the podium (supposedly as an allegory of some sort). Another read a poem written by her aide. A third MP asked his supporters to send him speeches via social media.

No one knows how much longer the Finns Party is going to keep up the filibuster. One MP said that it could go on until the municipal election on 13 June. Some in the party are hoping that losses in the election will convince some NCP and Centre Party MPs to change their position on the stimulus package. Currently, in addition to the 38 Finns Party MPs, there are 5 Christian Democrats, 5 NCP MPs, 1 Centre Party MP, 1 Movement Now MP and 1 independent MP opposed to the package. Those opposed to it cite the several billion euros in net losses for Finland and are in general worried that it will lead to a permanent arrangement of Northern Europe paying for Southern Europe's debts.

Update: Despite an eight hour speech by one Finns Party MP, it seems that the matter is moving to a vote next week.

Update 2: Passed 134–57. "No" voters: 38 Finns Party, 10 NCP, 5 CD, 2 Centre, 1 Movement Now, 1 independent.
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« Reply #1171 on: May 31, 2021, 05:40:20 PM »

Denmark's Secret Service helped the United States spy on European politiicans, including Angela Merkel from 2012 to 2014.

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Denmark's secret service helped the US spy on European politicians including German Chancellor Angela Merkel from 2012 to 2014, Danish media say.

The Defence Intelligence Service (FE) collaborated with the US National Security Agency (NSA) to gather information, according to Danish public service broadcaster DR.

Intelligence was allegedly collected on other officials from Germany, France, Sweden and Norway.

Similar allegations emerged in 2013.

Then, secrets leaked by US whistleblower Edward Snowden alleged tapping of the German chancellor's phone by the NSA.

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German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier and a spokesperson for Angela Merkel have said they were not aware of Danish involvement until the DR report, which was shared with other European media over the weekend.
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« Reply #1172 on: June 21, 2021, 09:03:46 AM »
« Edited: June 24, 2021, 08:19:29 PM by Helsinkian »

The Finns Party's leader Jussi Halla-aho has announced that he will not be seeking a third term as party leader in the party convention in August. Somewhat of a surprise, though he had hinted at it earlier when he said that he favoured term limits for the party's leader.

Halla-aho declined to give specific reasons for stepping down -- instead, he said that he had written a letter outlining his reasons and then gave it to a trusted journalist on the condition that it would be published no earlier than ten years from now. This leads me to believe that the reason might be related to the other parties' aversion to Halla-aho -- they may have told him behind the scenes that co-operation in government would be difficult with him but easier with another Finns Party leader (even though the NCP's leader said earlier this year that he was no longer categorically opposed to working with the Finns Party in a coalition). It is no secret that Halla-aho is a divisive figure in Finnish politics.

It is also possible that Halla-aho thinks that he achieved what he set out to do -- changing the party's overtly moderate line under Soini -- and now believes that things have stabilised, so he can step down. The leading members of the moderate wing left the party in 2017. Halla-aho has always seemed like an INTJ personality -- an independently minded figure who does not enjoy leadership positions but might accept them when there are no better alternatives. But if this is the reason for stepping down, why the mystery letter?

I don't think the result of the recent municipal election had an effect on the decision. Though the party underperformed the polls, they still got their best ever result in a municipal election. In the polls for the parliamentary election, the party continues to poll strongly.

The clear frontrunner seems to be Riikka Purra, the party's deputy chair. A female leader might help the party appeal to women. There is currently a strong gender divide when it comes to the party's support, and only 21 percent of the party's recently elected municipal councillors are women. On a sidenote, Purra's surname literally means "to bite".

Other possible contenders include Ville Tavio, leader of the parliamentary group, and Juho Eerola, deputy speaker of the parliament. MEP Laura Huhtasaari has already declined.
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« Reply #1173 on: July 03, 2021, 05:30:39 PM »

A new Norweigan law mandates Social Media influencers disclose photo editing.

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Norway has passed a law targeting photo editing in an attempt to address body image issues in society.

The new law mandates that content creators disclose when they've retouched or added a filter to a photo.

Any photo where "a body's shape, size or skin has been changed by retouching or other manipulation" must be marked as edited, the legislation declares.


In addition to advertisers, the law also stipulates that celebrities and social media influencers must label altered images if they are paid or benefit in some way from the post.

The legislation in question

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« Reply #1174 on: August 12, 2021, 07:06:45 AM »
« Edited: August 12, 2021, 01:44:03 PM by Helsinkian »

The Finns Party leadership election will take place on 14 August, with the main candidates being the MPs Riikka Purra and Sakari Puisto. Purra is favoured to win.

Meanwhile, MP Ano Turtiainen, who was earlier expelled from the Finns Party, has set up his own party called "Power Belongs to the People" and managed to gather the required 5,000 signatures in a single day. Turtiainen has gained a reputation as an anti-vaxxer, and the new party will try to appeal to that crowd.
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