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« Reply #800 on: March 24, 2024, 10:59:51 AM »

I don’t know if the old truism about independents will really apply to Teals though. They are incredibly ideologically fixed and don’t have that local pragmatism. We’ve also seen at the NSW and Victorian state elections that both parties are quickly adapting to fighting them off.

I’d bet that when the Coalition sweeps back into power (which ain’t happening under Dutton, let’s be real) all the teals will be swept up and tied to their track record of ideological stances that diametrically oppose their electorates. And for all the talk a grand ideological shift - as a voter in a teal seat there was only one issue that worked. Climate. Once the Federal Coalition gets over the climate debate the teals lose their purpose.

Yes, but when will that actually happen?  If anything, climate change denial seems to be becoming *more* popular amongst much of the right rather than less.

The problem is really just with Queensland voters still. Far too many overly pro-coal voters in marginal seats. And as Shorten proved, looking two-faced on the climate issue is toxic to everyone. Queensland Labor is really struggling with the dilemma too, it’s the driver behind the Brisbane greens growth.
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« Reply #801 on: March 24, 2024, 04:22:28 PM »

I very much doubt the coalition is getting over the climate debate soon. They're just too linked up with that side ideologically, especially with the Nationals as wedded to anti-renewables rhetoric as they are.

As far as being two-faced on the climate issue, that's a sword that cuts both ways. Dutton's trying to shift the conversation to nuclear energy, but in a country as anti-nuclear as Australia, I'm not sure what effect that's going to have.
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« Reply #802 on: March 25, 2024, 09:21:37 PM »

Labor seems likely to lose the next election based on the current numbers.
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« Reply #803 on: March 28, 2024, 01:22:47 AM »
« Edited: March 28, 2024, 05:58:04 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

From Jacinta Price this morning.

"This has really shaken me.

The footage of a 16-year-old girl being viciously beaten up by ten other women on the streets of Alice Springs is shocking because this sort of mob violence on our streets is always unacceptable.

It's the type of horrible behaviour I've been speaking out about for years and it's unfortunately becoming the norm in places like Alice Springs.

But what's more shocking is that the women in this clip are Warlpiri, I am Warlpiri; and I am told this was a case of traditional cultural payback.

That's right. It was so-called "traditional" Aboriginal culture.

I call on the Warlpiri elders to condemn this behaviour and put a stop to it.

Even more than that though, I think it's important to highlight this case because you and I know that this sort of vigilantism wouldn't be tolerated in the big cities.

But because it's out-of-sight, out-of-mind people are happy to let it go.

We've also seen the footage of young people rioting in Alice Springs.

This violence and disorder has been escalating for a while but it's taken massive pressure from the Coalition, the media, and the local Mayor Matt Patterson to get the NT Government to take it seriously.

The NT Government has finally declared a State of Emergency and imposed a curfew to deal with the immediate chaos, but while I support that measure, this is another band-aid fix.

The Federal Government needs to step up and get some long term solutions.

But they're still not willing to look at the problem honestly.

They're still blind to the reality I have spoken about for years and I copped a lot of criticism for talking about it during the Voice debate last year.

Government-funded big city Indigenous activists and their enablers don't want people talking about cultural payback or violence in Alice Springs.

They hide behind racialist language and a mythical sunshine-and-rainbows view of Indigenous culture.

They focus on academic nonsense about systemic injustice and colonialism to avoid looking this dysfunction and violence squarely in the eye.

It's a toxic tolerance and it makes me sick that people romanticise traditional culture to the point where we are now too cowardly to honestly address long-term solutions to the dysfunction.

Funnily enough, I can't think of anything more racist than allowing this kind of violence in Aboriginal communities when you would never for a second allow it in your city or town.

But when you let racial obsession guide policy, you're chasing band-aid solutions for problems that are already out of control.

Two weeks of curfew is a start, but it's just a start.

Now it's time to end the toxic tolerance and find real solutions."
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« Reply #804 on: March 28, 2024, 03:19:53 AM »

Tammy Tyrell has left the Jacqui Lambie Network. Hilariously predictable, just like every other one man personality party.
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« Reply #805 on: March 28, 2024, 07:48:32 AM »

Labor seems likely to lose the next election based on the current numbers.

But recent actual election results were, mostly, somewhat underwhelming for the right. Are we going to see a similar trend as in the US for the last few years here?
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« Reply #806 on: March 28, 2024, 07:54:41 AM »

Labor seems likely to lose the next election based on the current numbers.

But recent actual election results were, mostly, somewhat underwhelming for the right. Are we going to see a similar trend as in the US for the last few years here?
FWIW that Essential poll was almost certainly an outlier. Other polls have Labor in a comparable or at worst slightly weaker position as where they were in 2022. Also on actual past election preferences (not to be confused with their weird headline 2PP+ figures) Labor would still stand a pretty good chance of remaining in government if in minority.

That said, the longer this immigration war lasts, the worse Labor's position is.
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« Reply #807 on: March 30, 2024, 04:41:02 AM »

Pauline wants a bit of backbone.

Alice Springs

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5HTAPESSKa/
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« Reply #808 on: April 01, 2024, 03:30:50 AM »

South Australians voted on the weekend for the state-based Voice to Parliament.

https://omny.fm/shows/ben-fordham-full-show/90-didn-t-vote-dud-turnout-for-voice-vote-in-south%F0%9F%8E%A7
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« Reply #809 on: April 01, 2024, 05:34:18 AM »


Who cares about what a nasty has been wants?
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« Reply #810 on: April 03, 2024, 06:30:26 PM »

Warren Entsch accused of nepotism with his allocation of contracts in Northern Queensland.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-04/warren-yolonde-entsch-federal-mp-leichardt-queensland/103657670

Warren is batting way above his average here.


Yolonde Entsch is the LNP's candidate for Cairns. (Supplied: The Social Effect)


Liberal MP Warren Entsch speaking at parliament in 2017. (AAP: Lukas Coch)
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« Reply #811 on: April 04, 2024, 01:24:32 AM »

One of the most astonishing things to me is how all the chatter around Jacinta Price has disappeared since the Voice. Was this the most obvious 'token black' play ever?
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« Reply #812 on: April 04, 2024, 05:31:13 AM »
« Edited: April 04, 2024, 05:41:16 AM by CumbrianLefty »

Certain people are discarded like a used rag as soon as they cease to be "useful".

To an extent it was always thus, but the modern right wing media has turned it into a fine art.
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« Reply #813 on: April 04, 2024, 10:15:09 AM »

It’s especially ironic given how Murdoch’s trying to make Alice Springs a convenient national scandal (in spite of his papers downplaying it before the election, not to mention the pretty shameless coverage of Don Dale). You’d think they’d want an Alice Springs local front and centre. Aboriginal. Literally the former Deputy Mayor. Speaking on something she actually has a lot of experience with (for once).
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« Reply #814 on: April 06, 2024, 06:35:18 PM »

The right-wing outrage machine pounds on. The choice of outrage this time?

F**king biscuit tins.
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« Reply #815 on: April 06, 2024, 09:32:06 PM »

The right-wing outrage machine pounds on. The choice of outrage this time?

F**king biscuit tins.

Pretty typical bad PR management by Woolies. Here in Sydney they’re already under fire for refusing to stock Norco milk anymore. Sure almost nobody buys the bloody tins but taking them off the shelves is begging for a public backlash.
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« Reply #816 on: April 07, 2024, 09:55:25 AM »

The mind boggles at how biscuit tins have become part of the "woke culture wars".
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« Reply #817 on: April 07, 2024, 10:13:48 AM »

The mind boggles at how biscuit tins have become part of the "woke culture wars".

Tldr, imagine if the Royal British Legion made limited edition biscuit tins and every supermarket always stocks them for Rememberance day. But this year Sainsbury's decides to stop stocking them and doesn't really explain why.
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