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« on: February 22, 2012, 01:48:13 AM »
« edited: February 22, 2012, 01:53:48 AM by wormyguy »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17123397
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2012, 01:49:00 AM »
No... he resigned.

BIG difference. The challenge is on.
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 01:50:32 AM »
Quote from: President-elect Polnut on February 22, 2012, 01:49:00 AM
No... he resigned.

BIG difference. The challenge is on.

Hmm, cultural differences?  In America cabinet secretaries and congressional leadership are never fired - they always "resign."  I figured it was the same in Australia.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 01:52:43 AM »
Quote from: wormyguy on February 22, 2012, 01:50:32 AM
Quote from: President-elect Polnut on February 22, 2012, 01:49:00 AM
No... he resigned.

BIG difference. The challenge is on.

Hmm, cultural differences?  In America cabinet secretaries and congressional leadership are never fired - they always "resign."  I figured it was the same in Australia.

If you saw his comments... this was tactical. It's not a firing being covered up as a resignation. This is Rudd beating Gillard to the punch.
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 02:23:12 AM »
And it all begins...
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 03:10:31 AM »
Quote from: wormyguy on February 22, 2012, 01:50:32 AM
Quote from: President-elect Polnut on February 22, 2012, 01:49:00 AM
No... he resigned.

BIG difference. The challenge is on.

Hmm, cultural differences?  In America cabinet secretaries and congressional leadership are never fired - they always "resign."  I figured it was the same in Australia.

Mmm, as Polnut says, this is very different and more strategic than simply resigning. To use your cabinet secretary example, this is more like months of media speculation that the cabinet secretary would mount a primary challenge against the incumbent president, and then the cab sec comes out and resigns, blaming a lack of support from the president. That would carry very different overtones to just simply resigning. Especially since there had been the previous leadership challenge between the two of them.

Rudd made plenty of references to when he was challenged by the Prime Minister. He mentioned that he would never be part of a stealth attack on an elected PM (reference to the sudden-ness of the challenge to his Prime Ministership). He said the last time he resigned from a government position was when he resigned as PM and that there were many similarities with that resignation. He said that, like then, he had been publicly attacked by faceless men (I would think that if they attacked him publicly, they wouldn't be faceless, but that's irrelevant).

Anyway, he was obviously getting in before the Prime Minister could sack him, and therefore denied her the ability of making the first move.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 03:19:48 AM »
Graham Richardson just said Channel Seven was going to run a very damaging story about Rudd tonight, that he knew about (and had threatened legal action over). The story was dropped as this was a bigger story. He suggests it may run tomorrow but perhaps the timing may have partially been to push the story off the news.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 03:33:01 AM »
Quote from: Smid on February 22, 2012, 03:19:48 AM
Graham Richardson just said Channel Seven was going to run a very damaging story about Rudd tonight, that he knew about (and had threatened legal action over). The story was dropped as this was a bigger story. He suggests it may run tomorrow but perhaps the timing may have partially been to push the story off the news.

Lol... ahhh Richo, always needing to be relevant.

I think if the story is juicy enough, they would have run it regardless.
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 05:17:45 AM »
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Second half to follow.
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2012, 05:23:35 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2012, 05:24:43 AM »
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2012, 05:31:05 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2012, 05:35:35 AM »
As I said in the other thread... Swan's is just soooo brutal.
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2012, 05:37:26 AM »
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As I said in the other thread... Swan's is just soooo brutal.

I know. He was vicious!
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2012, 05:52:19 AM »
Quote from: President-elect Polnut on February 22, 2012, 05:35:35 AM
As I said in the other thread... Swan's is just soooo brutal.

Yeah, WOW
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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2012, 07:19:01 AM »
That's quite something.
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2012, 11:50:24 AM »
I've never been a big fan of Swan, but I do appreciate that he has hios beliefs and he's prepared to actually say them in public, something Gillard seems unable or unwilling to do.
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2012, 01:52:12 PM »
So, when's the spill gonna happen do we think?
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2012, 06:06:39 PM »

Monday morning...
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2012, 08:28:41 PM »
Reading that exchange of press statements reminded me of Atlasia.
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2012, 09:07:14 PM »
So, as his name says, Kevin Rudd is rude?
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2012, 10:01:18 PM »
Quote from: Joe Republic on February 22, 2012, 08:28:41 PM
Reading that exchange of press statements reminded me of Atlasia.

Yeah, the ALP is pretty much a metastasized Atlasian party.
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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2012, 12:27:41 AM »
Kevin Rudd's Resignation Letter
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2012, 01:46:11 AM »
It's soooo passive aggressive lol
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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2012, 02:16:25 AM »
Yeah, I love the whole "I wish to record what an honour it has been to serve as Minister for Foreign Affairs in a Labor Government." Not, "in your Government" but simply "in a Labor Government."
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