Roy Barnes vs. Bush 2004

[Jerseyrules]

Don't know much about him, but from what I got from Wikipedia, I think this is possible:

[Jerseyrules]

I think a Southern governor would do better in the south, but he wouldn't be able to hold his defecits in the white-collar north, such as Michigan and Pennsylvania.

[Jerseyrules]

Which is why I personally subscribe to the "Whistling past Dixie" theory.  Great book, btw.

[Jerseyrules]

I don't see how Barnes does worse than Kerry in the Rust Belt. Kerry really was about as terrible a candidate for that part of the country as you can get within the Democratic Party mainstream.

In the midwest I can see why you'd think so, but the Massachusetts senator did as good as the Dems will get in the northeast.

[Jerseyrules]

I don't see how Barnes does worse than Kerry in the Rust Belt. Kerry really was about as terrible a candidate for that part of the country as you can get within the Democratic Party mainstream.

In the midwest I can see why you'd think so, but the Massachusetts senator did as good as the Dems will get in the northeast.

Oh, definitely. I see how Barnes loses NH and possibly ME against Bush and how NJ and CN become much closer. It's Barnes losing the PA/OH/MI complex and especially IL that I'm not so sure about.

I was really showing the best case scenario for bush, and IL would be even closer than it was in 1960 if carried by Bush.

[Jerseyrules]

Better.

Hey, maybe in the distant future, I might write a timeliness based on this scenario. Could I use your map?

I was also thinking about writing a timeline on a Bush vs Barnes scenario. Why Pennsylvania and not Ohio?

Ohio is more populist, which is the group that would've been courted by a southern dem governor.

[Jerseyrules]

Better.

Hey, maybe in the distant future, I might write a timeliness based on this scenario. Could I use your map?

I was also thinking about writing a timeline on a Bush vs Barnes scenario. Why Pennsylvania and not Ohio?

Ohio is more populist, which is the group that would've been courted by a southern dem governor.

Okay. What about Georgia? Is it solidly in Barnes's column?

Depends on if W. runs his campaign the same as otl and how Barnes runs his.