Virginia puts Bush over top...

[OSR stands with Israel]

A lot of these comments seem eerily similar to those saying that GA is fool’s gold.

I highly recommed this gem as well:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=220621.0

VA 2008, PA 2016, GA 2020... so much fool's gold everywhere.

Look at most threads on here after Lehman crashed , the vast majority had Obama winning VA. If it wasn’t for the crash  , McCain probably still carries Virginia by a couple points in 2008 and loses by around only 1-2 points nationally .

But still even before Lehman too say it was fool’s gold would have been silly

[OSR stands with Israel]

What’s interesting is that VA was lumped in with the rest of the South and Appalachia as only being winnable with a white moderate #populist Dem. To be honest, even in 2005 I’m not sure how they arrived at that conclusion, considering how different its socioeconomic and cultural profile was.

Look at Mark Warner 2001 campagin, it was pretty populist. In 2004 Warner was the only Dem who really had a blue print of winning in VA and Jim Webb arguably was the only dem who could have won in 2006 as well.

NoVa wasnt just close to being there yet for dems to win of margins there , and even in 2008 it wouldnt have been enough without Lehman