PPP: Obama rebounds in Missouri, tied with Romney, leading everyone else

[Lief 🗽]

Obama's approval is back up to -5 from -10 in September, and now leads or ties all the Republicans.

Obama 45
Romney 45

Obama 45
Paul 43

Obama 47
Santorum 44

Obama 49
Gingrich 44

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/02/obama-competitive-in-missouri.html

[King]

Yet another state where Santorum is the only one who doesn't have an unfavorable opinion over 50%.  It's quite clear who the most electable choice is in this race.

[greenforest32]

http://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/165182712922112000

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Oh man I'm not sure which I'd prefer, Newt losing in a historic landslide or Mittbot's neoliberal 1% agenda sinking him in the general election

[Niemeyerite]

So, republicans should vote for Romney in the primary because he'd lose by less thna Gingrich? Hahaha...

[DrScholl]

Being tied in Missouri is basically enough to replicate 2008 numbers, maybe by a little less. If a Republican isn't winning here by more than that, then they aren't winning nationally.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

So why isn't Obama putting any money here? 

[Miles]

Odd that Obama's approvals are higher than McCaskill's; I was expecting the opposite.

[pbrower2a]

So why isn't Obama putting any money here? 

He can. The money has yet to be allocated. Under most scenarios the Senate seat is worth more to President Obama than are the state's ten electoral votes.

[Eraserhead]

This is his best shot for a pickup. And, frankly, he might have better shot at picking it up than he does of holding North Carolina.

[Red Willow]

So why isn't Obama putting any money here? 

He can. The money has yet to be allocated. Under most scenarios the Senate seat is worth more to President Obama than are the state's ten electoral votes.

Except he won't need MO in the general election, so the money going into the state is wasted and could be better spent going to actually help people. But then Obama would have to actually care.

[pbrower2a]

So why isn't Obama putting any money here? 

He can. The money has yet to be allocated. Under most scenarios the Senate seat is worth more to President Obama than are the state's ten electoral votes.

Except he won't need MO in the general election, so the money going into the state is wasted and could be better spent going to actually help people. But then Obama would have to actually care.

He is a greatly-weakened President if the Democrats lose the Senate majority. Remember -- there may be some question of where to put the emphasis on the Democratic campaigns in Missouri.

[Red Willow]

So why isn't Obama putting any money here? 

He can. The money has yet to be allocated. Under most scenarios the Senate seat is worth more to President Obama than are the state's ten electoral votes.

Except he won't need MO in the general election, so the money going into the state is wasted and could be better spent going to actually help people. But then Obama would have to actually care.

He is a greatly-weakened President if the Democrats lose the Senate majority. Remember -- there may be some question of where to put the emphasis on the Democratic campaigns in Missouri.

Oh right, I forgot about McCaskill. I'm just ranting in fury at the state of the race.

[Keystone Phil]

WHAT ABOUT KANSAS, LIEF?

[Red Willow]

Didn't Survey USA have Obama up in KS awhile ago?

[RodPresident]

I think that Obama's rebound means that he's with a striking distance to Romney in some states like Kentucky, South Carolina and Indiana. Obama's luck is that he doesn't have to go moderate to get unpopular with left-wing Democrats in Missouri or get unpopularity with conservatives going left-wing.

[Hash]

Another great result for Mr. Mitt Electable Romney.

[Lief 🗽]

WHAT ABOUT KANSAS, LIEF?

Look, I'm not saying Obama is going to necessarily win Kansas, but you might want to book your hotel room now if you want to attend the Topeka Victory Parade.

[pbrower2a]

Didn't Survey USA have Obama up in KS awhile ago?

Over Gingrich. I don't know whether the poll (now badly dated) is valid. Kansas hasn't voted for a Democratic nominee for President since 1964. Gingrich is unelectable. 

[pbrower2a]

Yet another state where Santorum is the only one who doesn't have an unfavorable opinion over 50%.  It's quite clear who the most electable choice is in this race.

Romney and Gingrich have been cutting each other up rhetorically and they have been leaving Santorum alone. I can easily imagine Santorum gaining against both while that goes on. The rhetorical switchblades are out within the GOP, and they have been honed with attacks on liberals and moderates. The GOP is taking on one of the most common characteristics of a totalitarian movement: vicious squabbles over issues that those not in the movement consider either arcane or incomprehensible.  Think of the Stalinist-Trotskyite enmity within Communism, one of the best reasons to not be a Commie.

[timothyinMD]

This poll is so laughable that it shouldn't even be posted.  Obama is in the basement in Missouri, and he's gonna get trounced there. 

Wishful thinking PPP

[หมูเด้ง]

Yet another state where Santorum is the only one who doesn't have an unfavorable opinion over 50%.  It's quite clear who the most electable choice is in this race.

Romney and Gingrich have been cutting each other up rhetorically and they have been leaving Santorum alone. I can easily imagine Santorum gaining against both while that goes on. The rhetorical switchblades are out within the GOP, and they have been honed with attacks on liberals and moderates. The GOP is taking on one of the most common characteristics of a totalitarian movement: vicious squabbles over issues that those not in the movement consider either arcane or incomprehensible.  Think of the Stalinist-Trotskyite enmity within Communism, one of the best reasons to not be a Commie.

abortion, gays, immigrants, marijuana to a degree...

[pbrower2a]

This poll is so laughable that it shouldn't even be posted.  Obama is in the basement in Missouri, and he's gonna get trounced there. 

Wishful thinking PPP

Laughable? Not in the least. It is consistent with President Obama being up by 10% in New Hampshire (Granite State/WMUR) and by 7% in Ohio (PPP) against Mitt Romney. It suggests that if the Presidential election were being held today that the result would be much like that of 2008. I accept the Granite State/WMUR poll that contradicts the idea that Mitt Romney was a likely winner of New Hampshire because one of the conditions of that lead was that Republicans unloaded a steady barrage of cheap shots at the President until the primary was over. Now that that is over, the President doesn't look so bad. 

Can that hold? You don't know and I don't know. Much can happen when the Presidential race becomes a real campaign -- when the President's campaign apparatus is set up. There will be events that decide the final results.

PPP has a good record. Polls are snapshots of the reality of the time. Like snapshots they can pick up something that isn't really there (it is possible to photograph a mirage) or something that won't be there at a later time (snow in February in Michigan will definitely not be part of the scene in July). But if you think that a poll is worthless unless it picks up your "Barack Obama is terrible, and no good person could possibly vote for him" or "Barack Obama is the new Jimmy Carter and thus cannot win re-election" memes, you don't have a poll so much as a biased model, and you don't really need polls. Just because Rush Limbaugh says something doesn't mean that it is true.

The polls are snapshots. They are not the ultimate reality better described by a slow-motion film that encompasses several months of activity.  You can't get the whole picture of the climate of Grand Rapids based on one day of the year.



 

[Gustaf]

I think that Obama's rebound means that he's with a striking distance to Romney in some states like Kentucky, South Carolina and Indiana. Obama's luck is that he doesn't have to go moderate to get unpopular with left-wing Democrats in Missouri or get unpopularity with conservatives going left-wing.

Haha, what?

[Torie]

I think that Obama's rebound means that he's with a striking distance to Romney in some states like Kentucky, South Carolina and Indiana. Obama's luck is that he doesn't have to go moderate to get unpopular with left-wing Democrats in Missouri or get unpopularity with conservatives going left-wing.

Haha, what?

Maybe it was translated from Swedish into English by Babelfish or something.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYjpE1I7XbE