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« Reply #225 on: April 17, 2016, 03:52:42 PM »
504 Congressmen present for vote.
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« Reply #226 on: April 17, 2016, 03:53:18 PM »

Yeah.  They should really use some sort of electronic device.  Do all of them need to give a speech as they vote ?
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« Reply #227 on: April 17, 2016, 04:01:27 PM »
12-3 for Yes so far.
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« Reply #228 on: April 17, 2016, 04:02:05 PM »
Current numbers:

Yes - 24 (77.4%)
No - 7 (22.6%)
Absent - 0 (0%)
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« Reply #229 on: April 17, 2016, 04:06:00 PM »
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« Reply #230 on: April 17, 2016, 04:11:53 PM »
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« Reply #231 on: April 17, 2016, 04:12:25 PM »
The goal for Yes is to get to 342 out of 504 present or 67.9%
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« Reply #232 on: April 17, 2016, 04:13:53 PM »
Why is Globo not tracking the vote relative to what the Members of Congress that has voted so far has stated his/her voting intention were?  That seems much more important than the current count.
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« Reply #233 on: April 17, 2016, 04:16:24 PM »
Yes - 46 (78.0%)
No - 12 (20.3%)
Abstain - 1 (1.7%)
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« Reply #234 on: April 17, 2016, 04:29:00 PM »
I love how they all wear their regional flags around their neck when they're casting their votes.

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« Reply #235 on: April 17, 2016, 04:37:39 PM »
After 100 votes: 73-24-3
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« Reply #236 on: April 17, 2016, 04:42:49 PM »
So far not looking that good for Dilma
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« Reply #237 on: April 17, 2016, 04:48:22 PM »
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« Reply #238 on: April 17, 2016, 04:55:30 PM »
One possible good news for Dilma is that the sequence of voting has under-counted PT relative to PMDB and PSDB.  So there are relatively more PT members vote to come.   Problem is she is falling very far behind the count and these PT votes to come most likely will not be enough.
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« Reply #239 on: April 17, 2016, 04:56:06 PM »
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« Reply #240 on: April 17, 2016, 05:01:01 PM »
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« Reply #241 on: April 17, 2016, 05:04:05 PM »
Dilma is not getting the defections from PMDB, PSD, and PP at the rate she needs to survive in my view.
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« Reply #242 on: April 17, 2016, 05:05:02 PM »
What is the position of the PDT on this vote? They seem to be split down the middle on this.
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« Reply #243 on: April 17, 2016, 05:10:11 PM »
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« Reply #244 on: April 17, 2016, 05:15:21 PM »
Dilma's goal is to get to 163 No/Abstain.  PT (I think) 70 members.  This means she has to get 93 non-PT members. 

So far it is 126-30-3 with 17 PT Nos.  This means so far there are 16 non-PT No/Abstains.  But 31.5% of members of Congress voted already so she is way under the run rate to get to 93 non-PT No/Abstains.
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« Reply #245 on: April 17, 2016, 05:22:30 PM »
136-35-3.

20 PT No's so 18 non-PT No/Abstains.    34.5% members voted.  Goal is 93 non-PT No/Abstains.  Run rate which is 19.4% of target well below the target of 34.5%
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« Reply #246 on: April 17, 2016, 05:25:26 PM »
Quote from: jaichind on April 17, 2016, 05:05:02 PM
What is the position of the PDT on this vote? They seem to be split down the middle on this.

Yes they are split. PDT is officially against the impeachment and threatened to expel from the party those who vote in favor of the impeachment. The fact that there are so many defections on PDT so far shows how the situation of the government worsened over the last 36 hours.
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« Reply #247 on: April 17, 2016, 05:33:37 PM »
Ricardo Noblat projects 380 votes for the impeachment right now.
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« Reply #248 on: April 17, 2016, 05:49:32 PM »
171-44-3.  Only 22 non-PT No/abstains
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« Reply #249 on: April 17, 2016, 05:52:15 PM »
You could not make this kind of drama up. It's picture-perfect grandstanding. Just watching this, I'm wondering if it's all a rating-boosting conspiracy by the television networks/

Fmr Sao Paulo Mayor Erundina just voted no, and Major Olimpia (SD-SP) had a hilarious shouting speech:

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