Egypt Football Disaster

[Insula Dei]

From what I'm hearing, this might not be as much of a 'accident' as one would be lead to expect. The Al-Ahly fanbase appearantly was quite active on the revolutionary side last year, and the circumstances of the riots sound very suspicious (large coordinated attack by the fans of the winning side, police passivity, lights eclipsing at the wrong time).

The MB appears to already be making noises that point in that general direction, too. And of course there are riots and demonstrations in Cairo too, today.

[Beet]

'Many members of die-hard soccer fans who were among the protesters vowed to storm the ministry.

"Either they (police) will die or we will die," said Islam, a member of the Ultras, said. "We are willing to die for the blood of martyrs." '

LOL.

[dead0man]

Soccer, what can't it do?

[k-onmmunist]

Soccer, what can't it do?

Be interesting

(Sorry guys, not a sports fan despite my location...)

[Antonio the Sixth]

It seems to be a government conspiracy, which makes it even more disgusting.

[Хahar 🤔]

Soccer, what can't it do?

Be interesting

(Sorry guys, not a sports fan despite my location...)

Soccer is objectively awful, so there's nothing to apologize about.

[Insula Dei]

This of course is exactly the sort of thing that could backfire spectacularly and cause a second round to the revolution.

'Many members of die-hard soccer fans who were among the protesters vowed to storm the ministry.

"Either they (police) will die or we will die," said Islam, a member of the Ultras, said. "We are willing to die for the blood of martyrs." '

LOL.

I don't really see what's funny about that comment, beyond that it showcases this event has created renewed oppositional vigour.

[Beet]

This of course is exactly the sort of thing that could backfire spectacularly and cause a second round to the revolution.

'Many members of die-hard soccer fans who were among the protesters vowed to storm the ministry.

"Either they (police) will die or we will die," said Islam, a member of the Ultras, said. "We are willing to die for the blood of martyrs." '

LOL.

I don't really see what's funny about that comment, beyond that it showcases this event has created renewed oppositional vigour.

The entire of the Egyptian protest movement is a joke. Will they ever be done protesting? First they wanted Mubarak gone. He left. Now they want 'the Generals' to hand over power. Will they really be satisfied if the Generals step down? No. Police brutality will still happen. The security forces will still abuse power. Their problems are systemic, and what's needed is not more protests, or the resignation of this person, or that person, but someone who can work inside the system to really transform it. However, police brutality happens in every country-- including the USA. I mean, even the Salafists are better than de facto anarchists. At least the Salafists participate in elections. The de facto anarchists first said they wanted democracy, but now they won't participate in it. If it doesn't involve them scapegoating the Interior Ministry for their unhappiness, they aren't interested.

[Lief 🗽]

Soccer, what can't it do?

Be interesting

(Sorry guys, not a sports fan despite my location...)

Soccer is objectively awful, so there's nothing to apologize about.

...says the baseball fan.

[minionofmidas]

Doesn't appear to be a "disaster" exactly...

[Insula Dei]

Doesn't appear to be a "disaster" exactly...

Yeah, I'm by now fully convinced of that.

[Хahar 🤔]

Soccer, what can't it do?

Be interesting

(Sorry guys, not a sports fan despite my location...)

Soccer is objectively awful, so there's nothing to apologize about.

...says the baseball fan.

Yes, I enjoy sports that are intellectually compelling.

[Insula Dei]

This of course is exactly the sort of thing that could backfire spectacularly and cause a second round to the revolution.

'Many members of die-hard soccer fans who were among the protesters vowed to storm the ministry.

"Either they (police) will die or we will die," said Islam, a member of the Ultras, said. "We are willing to die for the blood of martyrs." '

LOL.

I don't really see what's funny about that comment, beyond that it showcases this event has created renewed oppositional vigour.

The entire of the Egyptian protest movement is a joke. Will they ever be done protesting? First they wanted Mubarak gone. He left. Now they want 'the Generals' to hand over power. Will they really be satisfied if the Generals step down? No. Police brutality will still happen. The security forces will still abuse power. Their problems are systemic, and what's needed is not more protests, or the resignation of this person, or that person, but someone who can work inside the system to really transform it. However, police brutality happens in every country-- including the USA. I mean, even the Salafists are better than de facto anarchists. At least the Salafists participate in elections. The de facto anarchists first said they wanted democracy, but now they won't participate in it. If it doesn't involve them scapegoating the Interior Ministry for their unhappiness, they aren't interested.

Most people tend to think that any state where large numbers of their friends can still be killed, directly or indirectly, by the elite is one worth protesting against. Your post reads like some sort of a parody of a 19th century liberal who just doesn't get 'it'. The democracy that's in place in Egypt now does not function properly. It might do so in the long run (or so I hope), but as long as the military leadership that has been discrediting itself for months now, is in place Egypt's revolution will not have been succesful.