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« Reply #250 on: April 24, 2012, 03:09:07 AM »

The chairman should make a list of the various proposals so we can vote on them.

Include my "caretaker"-argument as a proposal.

Your wish is my command. I'm only the Vice Chair of this Party, but I hope no one objects to me bringing the various proposals to a vote. I'd say we first hold a vote on the proposals of the previous pages - these are the points that are disputed to a certain extent - and that we then move on to a vote on the entire platform unless someone brings up another point.

Please vote AYE or NAY on each proposal. Voting ends in 5 days:

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« Reply #251 on: April 24, 2012, 03:25:13 AM »


Please vote AYE or NAY on each proposal. Voting ends in 5 days:

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« Reply #252 on: April 24, 2012, 03:47:51 AM »

1. Nay
2. Nay
3. Aye
4. Nay
5. Aye
6. Aye
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« Reply #253 on: April 24, 2012, 04:56:43 AM »

1. "We recognize the Judeo-Christian tradition as the primary moral foundation of our society and the positive role of religion should be acknowledged and respected by the government."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

2. "God gave us the earth in trust and we are merely the caretakers of it and should pass it on to future generations in at least the condition we received it."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

3. "The Whig Party will only use military intervention abroad if the national security of Atlasia or our allies is threatened."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

4. "The Whig Party supports alternative energy research and supports enviromental protection."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

5. "That the military and its traditions are a fundamental aspect of our heritage and national identity."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

6. "That multilateralism and collective security - a community of nations - is the best way to advance Atlasia's interests abroad."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay
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« Reply #254 on: April 24, 2012, 06:18:09 AM »

1. "We recognize the Judeo-Christian tradition as the primary moral foundation of our society and the positive role of religion should be acknowledged and respected by the government."

[  ] Aye
[X] Nay

2. "God gave us the earth in trust and we are merely the caretakers of it and should pass it on to future generations in at least the condition we received it."

[  ] Aye
[X] Nay

3. "The Whig Party will only use military intervention abroad if the national security of Atlasia or our allies is threatened."

[X] Aye
[  ] Nay

4. "The Whig Party supports alternative energy research and supports enviromental protection."

[X] Aye
[  ] Nay

5. "That the military and its traditions are a fundamental aspect of our heritage and national identity."

[X] Aye
[  ] Nay

6. "That multilateralism and collective security - a community of nations - is the best way to advance Atlasia's interests abroad."

[X]Aye
[  ] Nay
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« Reply #255 on: April 24, 2012, 06:22:24 AM »

And here are some points, the ones not struck out (most likely because they're already being voted upon) I officially propose:

We, the members of the Whig Party, desirous of the advancement of the state of Atlasia, our country, and the preservation of its society, believe:

-That the foundation of a democratic, peaceful, and prosperous society is the family and community.
-That we simultaneously re-affirm the idea of personal responsibility, aided via the community.
-That the greatest long-term crisis facing Atlasia today is the decline of social capital and community, which shall eventually come to harm that democratic, peaceful, and prosperous society we enjoy.
-That greatest power in the land is not the State, whether Federal or Regional, but instead the community and the individual.

-That the government is not the arbiter nor origin of economic growth, but rather a force than can and should be used to assisted the marketplace in its growth, in the interests of community and the nation.
-That the model of free and unrestricted two-way trade is the optimal model for trade between nations
-That the government is, by nature, the power that can best provide certain resources and services to society.
-The government should regulate trade and industry to maximize social equity, while in a manner that does not impede the normal functioning of the economy
-That welfare is meant to temporarily assist, not provide for, the people

-That Atlasia must be mindful of its being the world's foremost power
-That military conflict, in general, is counter to the well-being of man and thus must be avoided unless necessary
-That diplomacy, not warfare, is the cornerstone of foreign relations
-That multilateralism and collective security- a community of nations- is the best way to advance Atlasia's interests abroad
-That the goals set out in foreign interventions must be achieved.

-That the maintenance of tradition is an integral part of society
-That the concepts of "rights" and "entitlements" must be balanced by an awareness of responsibilities and obligations to others
-That the life of all must be defended, and so both executions and abortion must be made illegal or at the least as rare as possible
-That the advancment of culture and science is an integral function of society and its organizations.

And the variations upon the two in which I voted nay:

"We recognize the religious basis for the moral foundation of our society and the positive role of religion should be acknowledged and respected by the government."

"We as the caretakers of the Earth have a moral obligation to pass it on to future generations in at least the condition we received it."

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« Reply #256 on: April 24, 2012, 09:57:51 AM »

I would object strongly to the one regarding military conflict- I understand the sentiment but as everyone knows military conflict is sometimes essential to the well-being of man
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« Reply #257 on: April 24, 2012, 10:07:23 AM »

1. "We recognize the Judeo-Christian tradition as the primary moral foundation of our society and the positive role of religion should be acknowledged and respected by the government."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

2. "God gave us the earth in trust and we are merely the caretakers of it and should pass it on to future generations in at least the condition we received it."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

3. "The Whig Party will only use military intervention abroad if the national security of Atlasia or our allies is threatened."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

4. "The Whig Party supports alternative energy research and supports enviromental protection."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

5. "That the military and its traditions are a fundamental aspect of our heritage and national identity."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

6. "That multilateralism and collective security - a community of nations - is the best way to advance Atlasia's interests abroad."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay


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« Reply #258 on: April 24, 2012, 10:09:02 AM »

1. "We recognize the Judeo-Christian tradition as the primary moral foundation of our society and the positive role of religion should be acknowledged and respected by the government."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

2. "God gave us the earth in trust and we are merely the caretakers of it and should pass it on to future generations in at least the condition we received it."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

3. "The Whig Party will only use military intervention abroad if the national security of Atlasia or our allies is threatened."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

4. "The Whig Party supports alternative energy research and supports enviromental protection."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

5. "That the military and its traditions are a fundamental aspect of our heritage and national identity."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

6. "That multilateralism and collective security - a community of nations - is the best way to advance Atlasia's interests abroad."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay
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« Reply #259 on: April 24, 2012, 10:17:57 AM »

Simfan, I suggest that we first conclude the current vote and that we hold a debate and a vote on your proposals afterwards. This way we can avoid the confusion of having several votes taking place at the same time. Is that ok?
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« Reply #260 on: April 24, 2012, 10:56:59 AM »
« Edited: April 24, 2012, 05:10:35 PM by politicus »

1. "We recognize the Judeo-Christian tradition as the primary moral foundation of our society and the positive role of religion should be acknowledged and respected by the government."

[ x ] Aye
[ ] Nay

2. "God gave us the earth in trust and we are merely the caretakers of it and should pass it on to future generations in at least the condition we received it."

[ x  ] Aye
[ ] Nay

3. "The Whig Party will only use military intervention abroad if the national security of Atlasia or our allies is threatened."

[X] Aye
[  ] Nay

4. "The Whig Party supports alternative energy research and supports enviromental protection."

[X] Aye
[  ] Nay

5. "That the military and its traditions are a fundamental aspect of our heritage and national identity."

[  ] Aye
[ X ] Nay

6. "That multilateralism and collective security - a community of nations - is the best way to advance Atlasia's interests abroad."

[X] Aye
[  ] Nay
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« Reply #261 on: April 24, 2012, 01:40:24 PM »

Vote for Regional chairs anybody?
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« Reply #262 on: April 24, 2012, 02:15:08 PM »


According to the latest census data, the Whig Party has 8 members in the ME, 4 in the IDS, 2 in the Pacific and 2 in the NE. That's why it probably only makes sense to have regional chairs in the ME and the IDS. Any volunteers?
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« Reply #263 on: April 24, 2012, 02:17:08 PM »

I draft Clarence for the IDS Whig Party Chairman!
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« Reply #264 on: April 24, 2012, 04:07:02 PM »

Simfan, I suggest that we first conclude the current vote and that we hold a debate and a vote on your proposals afterwards. This way we can avoid the confusion of having several votes taking place at the same time. Is that ok?

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« Reply #265 on: April 24, 2012, 07:11:09 PM »

1. "We recognize the Judeo-Christian tradition as the primary moral foundation of our society and the positive role of religion should be acknowledged and respected by the government."

  • Aye
[ ] Nay

2. "God gave us the earth in trust and we are merely the caretakers of it and should pass it on to future generations in at least the condition we received it."

  • Aye
[ ] Nay

3. "The Whig Party will only use military intervention abroad if the national security of Atlasia or our allies is threatened."

  • Aye
[ ] Nay

4. "The Whig Party supports alternative energy research and supports enviromental protection."

  • Aye
[ ] Nay

5. "That the military and its traditions are a fundamental aspect of our heritage and national identity."

  • Aye
[ ] Nay

6. "That multilateralism and collective security - a community of nations - is the best way to advance Atlasia's interests abroad."

[ ] Aye
  • Nay
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« Reply #266 on: April 27, 2012, 11:55:12 AM »

Ladies and Gentelmen, lets vote on National Convention Host City!
[] Chicago, IL
[] Columbus, OH
[] Cleveland, OH
[] Pittsburgh, PA
[] Indianapolis, IN
[] Cincinnati, OH
[] Atlantic City, NJ
[] St. Paul, MN
[] Niagara Falls, NY
[] Winona Lake, IN
[] Milford, IN
[] St. Louis, MO
[] Detroit, MI
[] Wichita, KS
[] Denver, CO
[] Birmingham, AL
[] Mandan, ND
[] Springfield, IL
[] Minneapolis, MN
[] Bird-In-Hand, PA
[] Fairfield Glade, TN
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« Reply #267 on: April 27, 2012, 11:56:39 AM »

[] Chicago, IL
[] Columbus, OH
[1] Cleveland, OH
[8] Pittsburgh, PA
[10] Indianapolis, IN
[9] Cincinnati, OH
[2] Atlantic City, NJ
[3] St. Paul, MN
[13] Niagara Falls, NY
[12] Winona Lake, IN
[11] Milford, IN
[4] St. Louis, MO
[14] Detroit, MI
[6] Wichita, KS
[15] Denver, CO
[16] Birmingham, AL
[17] Mandan, ND
[7] Springfield, IL
[18] Minneapolis, MN
[5] Bird-In-Hand, PA
[19] Fairfield Glade, TN
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« Reply #268 on: April 27, 2012, 12:23:12 PM »

Ladies and Gentelmen, lets vote on National Convention Host City!
[] Chicago, IL
[] Columbus, OH
[] Cleveland, OH
[] Pittsburgh, PA
[] Indianapolis, IN
[] Cincinnati, OH
[] Atlantic City, NJ
[] St. Paul, MN
[] Niagara Falls, NY
[] Winona Lake, IN
[] Milford, IN
[] St. Louis, MO
[] Detroit, MI
[] Wichita, KS
[X] Denver, CO
[] Birmingham, AL
[] Mandan, ND
[] Springfield, IL
[] Minneapolis, MN
[] Bird-In-Hand, PA
[] Fairfield Glade, TN
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« Reply #269 on: April 27, 2012, 12:27:58 PM »

Ladies and Gentelmen, lets vote on National Convention Host City!
[] Chicago, IL
[] Columbus, OH
[] Cleveland, OH
[] Pittsburgh, PA
[] Indianapolis, IN
[] Cincinnati, OH
[] Atlantic City, NJ
[] St. Paul, MN
[ x ] Niagara Falls, NY
[] Winona Lake, IN
[] Milford, IN
[] St. Louis, MO
[] Detroit, MI
[] Wichita, KS
[] Denver, CO
[] Birmingham, AL
[] Mandan, ND
[] Springfield, IL
[] Minneapolis, MN
[] Bird-In-Hand, PA
[] Fairfield Glade, TN
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« Reply #270 on: April 27, 2012, 12:41:44 PM »

[] Chicago, IL
[] Columbus, OH
[] Cleveland, OH
[] Pittsburgh, PA
[4] Indianapolis, IN
[5] Cincinnati, OH
[1] Atlantic City, NJ
[] St. Paul, MN
[] Niagara Falls, NY
[] Winona Lake, IN
[] Milford, IN
[] St. Louis, MO
[] Detroit, MI
[] Wichita, KS
[2] Denver, CO
[3] Birmingham, AL
[] Mandan, ND
[] Springfield, IL
[] Minneapolis, MN
[] Bird-In-Hand, PA
[] Fairfield Glade, TN
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« Reply #271 on: April 27, 2012, 01:06:13 PM »

The convention is only one week before the next federal election (i.e. in June), but it's always a good idea to start early.

[] Chicago, IL
[] Columbus, OH
[] Cleveland, OH
[] Pittsburgh, PA
[] Indianapolis, IN
[] Cincinnati, OH
[] Atlantic City, NJ
[] St. Paul, MN
[] Niagara Falls, NY
[] Winona Lake, IN
[] Milford, IN
[] St. Louis, MO
[] Detroit, MI
[] Wichita, KS
[] Denver, CO
[] Birmingham, AL
[] Mandan, ND
[] Springfield, IL
[] Minneapolis, MN
[X] Bird-In-Hand, PA
[] Fairfield Glade, TN
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« Reply #272 on: April 28, 2012, 07:11:15 AM »

[X] Springfield, IL
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« Reply #273 on: April 29, 2012, 03:22:10 PM »

The majority of the Whig Party members have voted in favor of the following lines, which are now part of the official Whig Party platform:

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« Reply #274 on: April 29, 2012, 04:03:54 PM »

[X] Chicago, IL
[] Columbus, OH
[] Cleveland, OH
[] Pittsburgh, PA
[] Indianapolis, IN
[] Cincinnati, OH
[] Atlantic City, NJ
[] St. Paul, MN
[] Niagara Falls, NY
[] Winona Lake, IN
[] Milford, IN
[] St. Louis, MO
[] Detroit, MI
[] Wichita, KS
[] Denver, CO
[] Birmingham, AL
[] Mandan, ND
[] Springfield, IL
[] Minneapolis, MN
[] Bird-In-Hand, PA
[] Fairfield Glade, TN
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