Senate Resolution Calling for a Constitutional Convention.

[minionofmidas]

Mr. President Pro-Tempore, if you'd be so kind to bring this to a vote...

He said he would tomorrow.

[JohnFKennedy]

I will indeed put this to a vote today (the seventh) as I said I would, however, would we prefer a 17 or 11 delegate convention? I think we should decide that first.

[Colin]

This system is the same as that used to apportion the US House, which is called the method of equal proportions.

Step 1: Give each State a seat (Region a delegate).

Step 2: Determine for each State its priority value.
The priority value is equal to the population of the State divided by the square root of n*(n+1) where n is the number of seats it current has.  At the start this will be dividing all populations by the square root of 2 (2=1*2)  to get the priority values, then by the square root of 6 (6=2*3), square root of 12 (12=3*4) etc. as States add seats.

Step 3: Give the State with the largest priority value a seat and recalculate its priority value based on the fact that it has an extra seat.

Step 4: Until you have the number of seats you want,  repeat Step 3.

(Or alternatively, you could decide a priori that the cutoff will be at a certain priority value, if you don't want a fixed size for the group.

Thank you for that explaination.

[True Democrat]

I think we should do a 17 delegate convention.  The more people we have, the more opinions we have.  Although this could create more arguments, it will also give the convention more voices and ideas.

[Jake]

I think we should do a 17 delegate convention.  The more people we have, the more opinions we have.  Although this could create more arguments, it will also give the convention more voices and ideas.

I agree.  Someone might have that key opinion that will lead to a better document.

[JohnFKennedy]

I propose to amend the delegation apportionments to meet Ernest's recommendations.

I would like to quickly call a vote on the amendment.

[JohnFKennedy]

All Senators please vote yea nay or abstain on my proposed amendment.


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Yea

[Gabu]

Yea.

[Defarge]

Yea

[True Democrat]

Once again, I urge the entire Senate to hurry up and vote yea on this.  We must start and end the convention before the next election.
All the Senators should start voting on this.  We need a constitutional convention.

[12th Doctor]

YEA

[Bono]

Abstain.

[MAS117]

Abstain.

Abstain, are you serious?

[True Democrat]

Abstain.

Abstain, are you serious?

I think this isn't the actual resolution.  Isn't this just the amendment?
Mayve Bono disagrees with Ernest's way of distributing delegates.

[Bono]

Abstain.

Abstain, are you serious?

I'm afraid that the constitutional convention will erode our liberties away,a s granted in the Civil Liberties Ammendment.

[Peter]

I'm afraid that the constitutional convention will erode our liberties away,a s granted in the Civil Liberties Ammendment.

I would doubt highly that that is likely to happen. This is really just an exercise to put the present constitution into a sane framework with structural changes that people want, I don't think there'll be any assault on civil liberties.

[12th Doctor]

You sound just like Patrick Henry before the real Constitutional Convention.

[Gabu]

Abstain.

Abstain, are you serious?

I'm afraid that the constitutional convention will erode our liberties away,a s granted in the Civil Liberties Ammendment.

The point of the Constitutional Convention is just to remove all of the vague, contradictory, or problematic sections in the current Constitution and to replace them with clear, unambiguous sections that say essentially the same thing.  To my knowledge, nothing new will be added to the Constitution.

[WMS]

Yea.

[minionofmidas]

If I counted correctly, that's six yeas and one abstention, enough to pass the amendment.
Could you call the final vote soon?

[JohnFKennedy]

If I counted correctly, that's six yeas and one abstention, enough to pass the amendment.
Could you call the final vote soon?

Five yeas and one abstention actually, but that is enough to pass.

Would all Senators now vote upon the amended version of the resolution (with 17 delegates allotted to the convention).

[JohnFKennedy]

Yea

[Defarge]

Yea

[King]

What system will be used to ratify a new constitution?

[The Dowager Mod]

The midwest and pacific governors should be raising hell about being under represented.