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« Reply #1850 on: September 06, 2013, 06:54:51 AM »
« edited: September 06, 2013, 07:08:30 AM by Natural Governing Party (TM) »

Bwahaha: Mulcair compares Trudeau to Campbell. "That's the Kim Campbell approach, right? You know, this is far too serious to talk about in advance." Grin Also says the NDP will be releasing policy in the prewrit period, campaign focus on GCPA, equity, credit card fees, etc.

Agreed w/Wells as usual.
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« Reply #1851 on: September 06, 2013, 09:54:12 AM »

The Albertan Progs, keeping it classy.
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« Reply #1852 on: September 06, 2013, 09:57:28 AM »

A plurality of Canadians (46-42) support intervention in Syria: http://htl.li/oC58P

Including a plurality of young people (49-40). Interestingly Quebec is most in support (52-37) while Alberta is most against (37-49).

Also interestingly, support among NDPers is the highest among the three parties (47-35); Tories disagree the most (45-48).
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« Reply #1853 on: September 06, 2013, 10:33:15 AM »

A plurality of Canadians (46-42) support intervention in Syria: http://htl.li/oC58P

Including a plurality of young people (49-40). Interestingly Quebec is most in support (52-37) while Alberta is most against (37-49).

Also interestingly, support among NDPers is the highest among the three parties (47-35); Tories disagree the most (45-48).

Intervening in Syria seems more "progressive" for lack of a better term than previous wars.
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« Reply #1854 on: September 06, 2013, 10:40:56 AM »

Peter Shurman has housing allowance problems. He should a) repay b) *quit* the Shadow Cabinet. Can't have a prospective finance minister pulling shinks like this. Meanwhile Glen Murray is a talking IED.
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« Reply #1855 on: September 06, 2013, 10:42:50 AM »

A plurality of Canadians (46-42) support intervention in Syria: http://htl.li/oC58P

Including a plurality of young people (49-40). Interestingly Quebec is most in support (52-37) while Alberta is most against (37-49).

Also interestingly, support among NDPers is the highest among the three parties (47-35); Tories disagree the most (45-48).

Whether it's here on Atlas, in America, the UK, and France, or anywhere else, I always get a kick out of how bizarre the lines of support and opposition are re: intervention in Syria.
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« Reply #1856 on: September 06, 2013, 10:52:27 AM »

This poll appears to only use the vague phrase "the international community should intervene in the Syrian conflict", with no mention of anything military. So people who just believe that the UN should be holding negotiations or something like that could easily be answering "yes".
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« Reply #1857 on: September 06, 2013, 01:43:24 PM »

A plurality of Canadians (46-42) support intervention in Syria: http://htl.li/oC58P

Including a plurality of young people (49-40). Interestingly Quebec is most in support (52-37) while Alberta is most against (37-49).

Also interestingly, support among NDPers is the highest among the three parties (47-35); Tories disagree the most (45-48).

Whether it's here on Atlas, in America, the UK, and France, or anywhere else, I always get a kick out of how bizarre the lines of support and opposition are re: intervention in Syria.

Yup. It seems to cut a different way than traditional left vs. right divides. It's more on the lines of internationalist vs. isolationist.  Do we intervene because Syrians need our help, or do we stay put because we should focus on our own problems? (trying to put that as neutral as possible)
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« Reply #1858 on: September 06, 2013, 02:30:27 PM »

This poll appears to only use the vague phrase "the international community should intervene in the Syrian conflict", with no mention of anything military. So people who just believe that the UN should be holding negotiations or something like that could easily be answering "yes".

There's a later question about whether Canada itself to intervene. It's roughly 55-45 against.
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« Reply #1859 on: September 06, 2013, 03:12:40 PM »

Marois interview with Le Devoir made all sorts of headlines, because she said that British multiculturalism caused people to beat each other up and set bombs. No, not a typo. Of course Couillard is demanding a retraction.

« En Angleterre, ils se tapent sur la gueule et s’envoient des bombes parce que c’est le multiculturalisme et qu’il n’y a plus personne qui se retrouve dans cette société-là. »
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« Reply #1860 on: September 07, 2013, 05:06:55 PM »

Unsurprisingly, Marois had to walk that back.
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« Reply #1861 on: September 07, 2013, 06:12:10 PM »

If a British politician says stupidness like that, they're normally of the far-right variety.
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« Reply #1862 on: September 07, 2013, 06:25:46 PM »

More stupid comments, this one from LPC Alberta's president to a local Tory MP on Twitter: "Are you doing anything for constituents not suffering from the effects of autism?" Naturally people from all parties are condemning said vile statement. No response from Trudeau yet either.
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« Reply #1863 on: September 07, 2013, 11:12:59 PM »

Not suprisingly, nobody talked of the Nova Scotia PC leader, which said than if NDP is reelected, Nova Scotia is the next Detroit or Greece.
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« Reply #1864 on: September 08, 2013, 05:07:33 PM »

This poll appears to only use the vague phrase "the international community should intervene in the Syrian conflict", with no mention of anything military. So people who just believe that the UN should be holding negotiations or something like that could easily be answering "yes".

There's a later question about whether Canada itself to intervene. It's roughly 55-45 against.

So people want other countries to do something but don't want to do something themselves. Makes perfect sense.
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« Reply #1865 on: September 08, 2013, 06:33:27 PM »

Hudak has removed Shurman as finance critic. Good. Can't have a finance critic who was caught red-handed with his hand in the cookie jar. No word yet on a replacement.
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« Reply #1866 on: September 08, 2013, 07:13:42 PM »

This poll appears to only use the vague phrase "the international community should intervene in the Syrian conflict", with no mention of anything military. So people who just believe that the UN should be holding negotiations or something like that could easily be answering "yes".

There's a later question about whether Canada itself to intervene. It's roughly 55-45 against.

So people want other countries to do something but don't want to do something themselves. Makes perfect sense.

Well, it's the government position. Strongly support an intervention, but not taking part in one, because we don't have anything useful for the kind of intervention which is proposed.
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« Reply #1867 on: September 09, 2013, 12:04:25 PM »

Wynne is giving a presser right now. Says she'll consult Hudak and Horwath about the fall session, but onus is on them to work with the government and why "if the house cannot function, opposition needs to explain why we need a general election." "You can frame what I said as threatening", but emphasizes she wants to work with them. I'm getting flashbacks to similar meetings Harper held 5 years ago this month... but as always the trigger finger is Horwath's. With an outside shot at Wynne's. 
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« Reply #1868 on: September 09, 2013, 01:28:50 PM »

Here's a link for Wynne's comments.
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« Reply #1869 on: September 09, 2013, 02:22:09 PM »

Was wondering when we'd see this: Catherine Pinhas gives her first interview. Doubt we'll see many more given that we know she's a private person, but part of a soft-focus strategy I'm guessing. Certainly the lowest-profile of the leaders' spouses.
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« Reply #1870 on: September 09, 2013, 02:49:37 PM »

Was wondering when we'd see this: Catherine Pinhas gives her first interview. Doubt we'll see many more given that we know she's a private person, but part of a soft-focus strategy I'm guessing. Certainly the lowest-profile of the leaders' spouses.

Lol @ the paragraph describing her complicated dinner order. Tongue
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« Reply #1871 on: September 09, 2013, 07:26:13 PM »

Naheed Nenshi and Ezra Levant have been going at it all day on Twitter. Apparently they go "way back" as former debate team foes in university.
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« Reply #1872 on: September 09, 2013, 08:08:20 PM »

Massive respect for Nenshi for taking on that scumbag waste of oxygen Ezra Levant.
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« Reply #1873 on: September 09, 2013, 08:32:07 PM »

Ordinarily risky to do during an election campaign, but no one serious is running against him.
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« Reply #1874 on: September 10, 2013, 12:39:19 PM »
« Edited: September 10, 2013, 02:48:01 PM by RogueBeaver »

Charter is out, and the feds are thinking about challenging it in court.

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