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« Reply #1550 on: June 26, 2013, 10:29:46 PM »

Alexa for leader!

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I'm still hoping the polls are wrong a la BC/AB, but they probably aren't. Also hoping Nova Scotians realize the NDP had to make some tough choices for the better.
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« Reply #1551 on: June 26, 2013, 10:42:56 PM »

Alexa for leader!

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I'm still hoping the polls are wrong a la BC/AB, but they probably aren't. Also hoping Nova Scotians realize the NDP had to make some tough choices for the better.

Man, she quit that job like 20 years ago Tongue.

I've found myself agreeing with the provincial NDP a lot of decisions. There is still a lot of stuff preventing me from voting NDP, but at least Dexter knows that NS has some major structural issues that need resolving... unlike most of my peers Tongue
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« Reply #1552 on: June 27, 2013, 08:47:16 AM »

Alexa for leader!

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I'm still hoping the polls are wrong a la BC/AB, but they probably aren't. Also hoping Nova Scotians realize the NDP had to make some tough choices for the better.

Man, she quit that job like 20 years ago Tongue.

I've found myself agreeing with the provincial NDP a lot of decisions. There is still a lot of stuff preventing me from voting NDP, but at least Dexter knows that NS has some major structural issues that need resolving... unlike most of my peers Tongue

Dexter's government has been quite "Red Tory"-like, which I think any first term NDP government should govern like. (fix previous govt's problems). Unfortunately even that is too extreme for Nova Scotians Sad Successive NDP governments are to slowly implement democratic socialism into the province (I call this the Tommy Douglas model). Cheesy

As for Alexa, she should try and get the job back. Only person that can save the party at this point, I think. Remember, when she was leader she was the only NDP MLA with no hope of even forming official opposition. Now she would be in a position to be Premier.
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« Reply #1553 on: June 27, 2013, 09:08:54 AM »

More MacKay rumours swirling but IMO to be dismissed as the usual unfounded gossip. Don Martin tweeted yesterday that some ministers and MPs been told to be within 24h of Ottawa in early July,  so that's the shuffle.
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« Reply #1554 on: June 27, 2013, 09:11:47 AM »

MacKay rumours about what?
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« Reply #1555 on: June 27, 2013, 09:37:58 AM »

About him leaving. Staff turnover's the new excuse.
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« Reply #1556 on: June 27, 2013, 11:50:37 AM »

Heh heh heh.

John "epic fail" Tory is thinking about running for mayor of Toronto again. Will he ever learn? But kudos for him, he will split the ever shrinking right wing vote in Toronto.
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« Reply #1557 on: June 27, 2013, 12:09:26 PM »

In any case, if the NDP loses in Nova Scotia, that'll mean a rise in the federal NDP vote there come next election.
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« Reply #1558 on: June 27, 2013, 01:04:32 PM »

In any case, if the NDP loses in Nova Scotia, that'll mean a rise in the federal NDP vote there come next election.

Maybe, but the way things are going there will more likely just be a "trend" rather than an actual rise.
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« Reply #1559 on: June 27, 2013, 01:10:00 PM »

Quebec Court of Appeal rules that the province has no right to the registry data.
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« Reply #1560 on: June 27, 2013, 01:43:28 PM »

In any case, if the NDP loses in Nova Scotia, that'll mean a rise in the federal NDP vote there come next election.

Maybe, but the way things are going there will more likely just be a "trend" rather than an actual rise.

Meh. The NDP has been remarkably stable federally since 1997; 31%, 24%, 28%, 30%, 29%, 30%.

Alexa for leader!

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I'm still hoping the polls are wrong a la BC/AB, but they probably aren't. Also hoping Nova Scotians realize the NDP had to make some tough choices for the better.

Man, she quit that job like 20 years ago Tongue.

I've found myself agreeing with the provincial NDP a lot of decisions. There is still a lot of stuff preventing me from voting NDP, but at least Dexter knows that NS has some major structural issues that need resolving... unlike most of my peers Tongue

As for Alexa, she should try and get the job back. Only person that can save the party at this point, I think. Remember, when she was leader she was the only NDP MLA with no hope of even forming official opposition. Now she would be in a position to be Premier.

That's partially her own doing. The NDP had 4 seats when she was elected (and a shot at 2 more) in Cape Breton. She was the victor in a Chretien/Martin style civil war between the Halifax & Cape Breton wings of the party. She forced out 1/2 the caucus. One of the expelled MLA's formed his own party eventually joined the Liberals and took half of the NDP vote in Cape Breton with him Tongue

Alexa did a good job federally, but she definitely had some growing pains as a provincial leader. Granted, she's probably much better suited to today's NDP than the NDP in 1980.
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« Reply #1561 on: June 27, 2013, 05:42:02 PM »

Dexter's government has been quite "Red Tory"-like, which I think any first term NDP government should govern like. (fix previous govt's problems).

So we have you on record now, stating that the only way to fix government problems is to govern like a Tory? [/trolling]
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« Reply #1562 on: June 27, 2013, 06:47:46 PM »

Dexter's government has been quite "Red Tory"-like, which I think any first term NDP government should govern like. (fix previous govt's problems).

So we have you on record now, stating that the only way to fix government problems is to govern like a Tory? [/trolling]

Not like a Tory, like a perceived Tory.  Tory government's (especially in Atlantic Canada) aren't particularly fiscally responsible. The NDP has a (wrong) reputation of being fiscally irresponsible. So, it's important that in the first term, for the NDP to prove it's fiscal credibility before moving on to more important socialist economic reforms.
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« Reply #1563 on: June 27, 2013, 08:36:54 PM »

Dexter's government has been quite "Red Tory"-like, which I think any first term NDP government should govern like. (fix previous govt's problems).

So we have you on record now, stating that the only way to fix government problems is to govern like a Tory? [/trolling]

If only Tories were fiscally responsible...
They aren't and are using public money to help their allies, like most parties (here, it's banks, churches and oil companies).
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« Reply #1564 on: June 27, 2013, 08:58:56 PM »

Ivison: shuffle scheduled for the 9th. Now we wait for more specific (he hinted at the broad outlines a couple of weeks ago) scoops on the whos and wheres.
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« Reply #1565 on: June 27, 2013, 11:19:03 PM »

Laval continues to look silly, now the mayor is complaining to the police than escorts attempted to extort him.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/06/27/alexandre-duplessis-prostitute_n_3513462.html
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« Reply #1566 on: June 27, 2013, 11:36:52 PM »

New Nanos poll.

Liberals 34, Conservatives 29, NDP 25, Green 6, Bloc 4.

Atlantic: Liberal 40, NDP 35, Conservatives 22, Green 4 (caution, small sample)
Québec: Liberal 35, NDP 30, Bloc 15, Conservatives 13, Green 8
Ontario: Liberal 41, Conservative 29, NDP 22, Green 7
Prairies: Conservatives 54, Liberal 25, NDP 17, Green 3
BC: Conservatives 31, NDP 30, Liberals 28, Green 11
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« Reply #1567 on: June 28, 2013, 12:19:15 AM »

Trudeaumania already dying down, especially in QC.
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« Reply #1568 on: June 28, 2013, 12:23:15 AM »

Trudeaumania already dying down, especially in QC.

I wouldn't say it yet, but that's looking like it. Surprised, expected Trudeaumanis to not show its first failing signs before October-November.
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« Reply #1569 on: June 28, 2013, 06:22:32 AM »

All the non-Forum polls showed the Liberals in the mid-high 30s to begin with. Anyhoo, Del Mastro's donor records are being seized. RCMP also obtained warrants to search Duffy's PEI "residence" and Senate office per CTV.
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« Reply #1570 on: June 28, 2013, 07:31:30 AM »

New Nanos poll.

Liberals 34, Conservatives 29, NDP 25, Green 6, Bloc 4.

Atlantic: Liberal 40, NDP 35, Conservatives 22, Green 4 (caution, small sample)
Québec: Liberal 35, NDP 30, Bloc 15, Conservatives 13, Green 8
Ontario: Liberal 41, Conservative 29, NDP 22, Green 7
Prairies: Conservatives 54, Liberal 25, NDP 17, Green 3
BC: Conservatives 31, NDP 30, Liberals 28, Green 11

BC & Quebec are doing to be brutal dogfights.
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« Reply #1571 on: June 28, 2013, 01:50:45 PM »

Interim Laval mayor Alexandre Duplessis has resigned due to a prostitution scandal which involved extortion and cross-dressing. More to come. Well beyond The Onion's wildest dreams. Come on Toronto, try and keep up. Tongue
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« Reply #1572 on: June 28, 2013, 06:57:50 PM »


Wow lol.

BTW, have you read the Beaverton? It's just as good as the Onion.
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« Reply #1573 on: June 29, 2013, 09:37:26 AM »

Marois will recall the National Assembly tomorrow to pass BTW legislation for the construction workers.
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« Reply #1574 on: June 30, 2013, 03:03:00 AM »


News reports seems to be than Martine Beaugrand is the favorite to succeed him. She is one of the two municipal councillors which didn't took part into the illegal financing schemes at Laval (on 21 councillors), according to a witness at the Charbonneau inquiry. Previously working in some health habits social entreprise which organise well-known events about exercise, alimentation and somking.
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