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« Reply #1125 on: April 20, 2013, 06:36:27 PM »

FTR, I got to meet Michael Sona (aka Pierre Poutine) tonight. He is sticking by his innocence.

There's gotta be a good story behind this.
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« Reply #1126 on: April 20, 2013, 06:37:27 PM »

Not a chance.  The Liberals face serious problems in francophone Quebec which goes far deeper than party leadership.  
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« Reply #1127 on: April 20, 2013, 06:42:14 PM »

Not a chance.  The Liberals face serious problems in francophone Quebec which goes far deeper than party leadership.  

It's a 3 way race in QC right now. It wouldn't take a lot to make seats change hands.
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« Reply #1128 on: April 20, 2013, 06:50:53 PM »

Hatman knows Sona through someone else IIRC.

QC: Getting to 2004 levels, 20-odd seats in their usual hotspots, seems a realistic target for the Pelciquistes. But yeah, Winfield's post is absurd.

One thing I'm eager to see is the Cabinet shuffle, whenever it comes. I'm underexpecting and hoping for overfulfillment. Someone will have to permanently replace Penashue when his loss is confirmed next month. We'll see if for once Harper brings in new blood.
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« Reply #1129 on: April 20, 2013, 07:59:25 PM »

Remember this when it happens.

I predict a mass exodus of NDP MPs from Quebec to the Liberals under Trudeau, knowing they will not be able to win reelection as NDP candidates in Quebec.

Mark my words.

Liberals are still dead in rural Francophone Quebec and Trudeau isn't a good candidate for those nationalist areas.
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« Reply #1130 on: April 20, 2013, 08:01:50 PM »

Remember this when it happens.

I predict a mass exodus of NDP MPs from Quebec to the Liberals under Trudeau, knowing they will not be able to win reelection as NDP candidates in Quebec.

Mark my words.

Liberals are still dead in rural Francophone Quebec and Trudeau isn't a good candidate for those nationalist areas.

It's Winfield. He probably thinks Mitt Romney would sweep Quebec.
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« Reply #1131 on: April 20, 2013, 08:03:49 PM »

On another note, Mike Duffy repaid his housing expenses last month.

http://www.nationalnewswatch.com/mike_duffy_statement_on_housing_allowance_repayment.htm
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« Reply #1132 on: April 20, 2013, 09:39:14 PM »

Remember this when it happens.

I predict a mass exodus of NDP MPs from Quebec to the Liberals under Trudeau, knowing they will not be able to win reelection as NDP candidates in Quebec.

Mark my words.

Liberals are still dead in rural Francophone Quebec and Trudeau isn't a good candidate for those nationalist areas.

MaxQue, what's your guess to how the Quebec vote will split?
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« Reply #1133 on: April 20, 2013, 09:58:24 PM »

Remember this when it happens.

I predict a mass exodus of NDP MPs from Quebec to the Liberals under Trudeau, knowing they will not be able to win reelection as NDP candidates in Quebec.

Mark my words.

Liberals are still dead in rural Francophone Quebec and Trudeau isn't a good candidate for those nationalist areas.

MaxQue, what's your guess to how the Quebec vote will split?

No, currently, since I'm waiting to see if the Liberal bounce is a permanent one, or just a "we have a new leader" one.
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« Reply #1134 on: April 20, 2013, 10:48:21 PM »


Weird. How long will this last?






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« Reply #1135 on: April 21, 2013, 07:46:03 AM »

FTR, I got to meet Michael Sona (aka Pierre Poutine) tonight. He is sticking by his innocence.

There's gotta be a good story behind this.

Not really. He's a pretty cool guy actually. Of course, him and our mutual friend hate the Tories now. Not sure where Sona will park his vote, but our mutual friend (who is a very traditionalist conservative) is a Trudeau backer now.

What I found interesting is, according to Sona, the Tory database is very restricted, only a few people on each campaign have access.  The NDP meanwhile lets any seasoned volunteer have access. Anyways, Sona did not even have access to the Tory database.
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« Reply #1136 on: April 21, 2013, 08:13:46 AM »

Remember this when it happens.

I predict a mass exodus of NDP MPs from Quebec to the Liberals under Trudeau, knowing they will not be able to win reelection as NDP candidates in Quebec.

Mark my words.

We're gonna need to see your credentials first before you can make any predictions about Canada.
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« Reply #1137 on: April 21, 2013, 08:30:34 AM »
« Edited: April 21, 2013, 12:04:47 PM by DC Al Fine »

FTR, I got to meet Michael Sona (aka Pierre Poutine) tonight. He is sticking by his innocence.

There's gotta be a good story behind this.

Not really. He's a pretty cool guy actually. Of course, him and our mutual friend hate the Tories now. Not sure where Sona will park his vote, but our mutual friend (who is a very traditionalist conservative) is a Trudeau backer now.

What I found interesting is, according to Sona, the Tory database is very restricted, only a few people on each campaign have access.  The NDP meanwhile lets any seasoned volunteer have access. Anyways, Sona did not even have access to the Tory database.

Speaking as a traditionalist conservative, why would a traditionalist conservative ever vote for Trudeau? Wanting to establish a Canadian monarchy?

I'm aware of the database rules. I only got database access in 2011 after working on campaigns in 06 and 08. I was told the restrictions were to prevent "over enthusiastic volunteers" from pulling any crap. Shows how well that worked out Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1138 on: April 21, 2013, 09:18:14 AM »
« Edited: April 21, 2013, 09:34:01 AM by politicus »

FTR, I got to meet Michael Sona (aka Pierre Poutine) tonight. He is sticking by his innocence.

There's gotta be a good story behind this.

Not really. He's a pretty cool guy actually. Of course, him and our mutual friend hate the Tories now. Not sure where Sona will park his vote, but our mutual friend (who is a very traditionalist conservative) is a Trudeau backer now.

What I found interesting is, according to Sona, the Tory database is very restricted, only a few people on each campaign have access.  The NDP meanwhile lets any seasoned volunteer have access. Anyways, Sona did not even have access to the Tory database.

Speaking as a traditionalist conservative, why would a traditionalist conservative ever vote for Trudeau? Wanting to establish a Canadian monarchy?
Why not? With his looks, preference for a life in leisure and talent for uttering platitudes he would be much better suited as King than as Prime Minister.
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« Reply #1139 on: April 22, 2013, 06:57:06 AM »

FTR, I got to meet Michael Sona (aka Pierre Poutine) tonight. He is sticking by his innocence.

There's gotta be a good story behind this.

Not really. He's a pretty cool guy actually. Of course, him and our mutual friend hate the Tories now. Not sure where Sona will park his vote, but our mutual friend (who is a very traditionalist conservative) is a Trudeau backer now.

What I found interesting is, according to Sona, the Tory database is very restricted, only a few people on each campaign have access.  The NDP meanwhile lets any seasoned volunteer have access. Anyways, Sona did not even have access to the Tory database.

Speaking as a traditionalist conservative, why would a traditionalist conservative ever vote for Trudeau? Wanting to establish a Canadian monarchy?

I'm aware of the database rules. I only got database access in 2011 after working on campaigns in 06 and 08. I was told the restrictions were to prevent "over enthusiastic volunteers" from pulling any crap. Shows how well that worked out Roll Eyes

Well, he's pretty pro monarchy, and wants to bring back the red ensign. I think you two might get along well.
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« Reply #1140 on: April 22, 2013, 07:01:36 AM »

Scheer rules today.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/04/22/john-ivison-speakers-ruling-on-mark-warawas-privilege-to-speak-freely-could-head-off-tory-rebellion/
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« Reply #1141 on: April 22, 2013, 11:14:25 AM »

Ontario budget will be tabled May 2.
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« Reply #1142 on: April 22, 2013, 11:34:13 AM »

The key NDP demands aren't in Sousa's budget speech. Election time.
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« Reply #1143 on: April 22, 2013, 01:27:29 PM »

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« Reply #1144 on: April 22, 2013, 02:32:04 PM »

Any chances of a Premier Horwath?
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« Reply #1145 on: April 22, 2013, 02:45:28 PM »

So what's with this major terrorist attack that was thwarted?
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« Reply #1146 on: April 22, 2013, 02:48:15 PM »

No word about any elections.


Extremely unlikely, but hey 1990 happened. This race will be seen as more of a 3 way race than any election since perhaps 1995.
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« Reply #1147 on: April 22, 2013, 02:55:08 PM »

Details on that terrorist attack: AQ-inspired against a VIA passenger train. On a related note, Fadden is moving from CSIS to DM at DOD. New anti-terrorism legislation is being debated today: if time allocation is invoked the vote could be tomorrow night.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/04/22/pol-csis-fadden-defence.html

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/04/22/pol-terror-plot-ontario-quebec-arrests.html

Ontario: Total crapshoot right now. Quite conceivably seats and PV won't match.
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« Reply #1148 on: April 22, 2013, 03:03:18 PM »
« Edited: April 22, 2013, 03:10:23 PM by RogueBeaver »

They're not Canadian citizens but have Iranian connections.

In other news, Justice Fish is resigning from the Court. Talk about an action-packed day. His retirement takes effect Aug. 31, meaning the PM will have named 6/9 justices.
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« Reply #1149 on: April 22, 2013, 04:11:19 PM »

Unfortunately this is probably the best time the Ontario Liberals have to just go for broke and call an election. It makes sense, if it happens.
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