Canada General Discussion

[RogueBeaver]

Major Cabinet shuffle incoming this fall. Too bad Oda and MacKay couldn't get dumped entirely, but nice to see some of the stars get in. I really do hope Bernier comes back in a major role before the next election. We need him.

http://www.canada.com/news/Tandt%2BHarper%2Bmulls%2Bcabinet%2Bshuffle%2Bgetting/6807605/story.html

[MaxQue]

You want the "Sarah Palin of Quebec", as someone I can't remember called him?

[Hash]

You want the "Sarah Palin of Quebec", as someone I can't remember called him?

Compared to the other 'talents' of the Conservative Party, Bernier isn't the only moron in the party.

[RogueBeaver]

NDP reviewing their Senate policy?

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/06/25/john-ivison-ndp-singing-red-chamber-blues/

DOD prepares for a potential MacKay ouster.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/canada/110868-defence-dept-braces-for-mackays-ouster-other-upheaval

[Vote UKIP!]

Excuse me again for interrupting, but isn't McKay of the old Progressive Conservative guard? It seems that the Reformers still control the Conservative Party.

[RogueBeaver]

Excuse me again for interrupting, but isn't McKay of the old Progressive Conservative guard? It seems that the Reformers still control the Conservative Party.

The Alliance wing has always controlled the party. What Harper's done is bleed MacKay out politically- letting him twist in the wind through all these scandals without defending him.

[Vote UKIP!]

Excuse me again for interrupting, but isn't McKay of the old Progressive Conservative guard? It seems that the Reformers still control the Conservative Party.

The Alliance wing has always controlled the party. What Harper's done is bleed MacKay out politically- letting him twist in the wind through all these scandals without defending him.

Do you consider yourself PC or Alliance?

Were I Canadian, I would likely be a Harperite. I don't know much about as PM, but he seems to be an honorable man

[RogueBeaver]

In other news, Brazeau has managed to a) set a truancy record in Senate attendance b) call Jen Ditchburn a biotch on Twitter for writing an article on his absenteeism. Ugh.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/despite-gig-for-life-37-year-old-tory-skips-25-of-senate-sittings/article4371734/?cmpid=rss1

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/26/senator-patrick-brazeau-h_n_1628551.html

[RogueBeaver]

I'm curious as to Hash's opinion on the ad.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/ad-showing-pot-banging-pq-leader-marois-prompts-legal-threat-160407915.html


LOL.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1217014--robocalls-ndp-mp-pat-martin-to-spend-summer-fundraising-for-defamation-defence?bn=1

[Hash]

I'm curious as to Hash's opinion on the ad.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/ad-showing-pot-banging-pq-leader-marois-prompts-legal-threat-160407915.html

Why me in particular?

[RogueBeaver]

I'm curious as to Hash's opinion on the ad.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/ad-showing-pot-banging-pq-leader-marois-prompts-legal-threat-160407915.html

Why me in particular?

Because you always have a bon mot for everyone.

My opinion is that she looks rather silly. Not quite Harper at the '05 Stampede or Martin toe-dipping but getting there.

[MaxQue]

I suppose I'm the one who wanted, as a Quebecer.

I think it will useless. People are already polarised on that issue and Marois position is well-known.
It will change nothing.

[Hatman 🍁]

I think the best plan for the NDP re: the Senate is to hold a national referendum on it. If Canadians want the status quo, then we start appointing Senators. If not, than we have a mandate to open up constitutional talks.

[Vosem]

Were I Canadian, I would likely be a Harperite. I don't know much about as PM, but he seems to be an honorable man

No politician is honorable, MasterSanders, though I too would certainly vote Conservative in federal elections were I Canadian. Or, in fact, whichever party had a greater chance of defeating the NDP in my district -- there's nothing wrong with voting Liberal, and while the BQ is just as distasteful as the NDP, there aren't as many of them.

The Wildrose Alliance strikes me as a great party, though -- rather closer to my beliefs than the American Republicans, though it has its problems, too.

[RogueBeaver]

Hatman: Reopen the constitutional wars? Seriously?

[MaxQue]

Hatman: Reopen the constitutional wars? Seriously?

Well, someone will have to open them someday. I don't think than a unelected upper house should still be there in 2200.

[Hatman 🍁]

If the voters want the Senate abolished, than that is definitely a mandate to open constitutional talks, so yes. However, 50%+1 might not seem like enough, as it might need to pass in 7 provinces as well. (Possible though, as there are only 3 Maritime provinces- Nfld isn't as over represented as the Maritimes)

[RogueBeaver]

Hear hear.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1219397--hebert-covering-cdnpoli-without-the-language-divide

[Vote UKIP!]

Happy Canada Day, guys, from America!

[RogueBeaver]

EKOS pegs the Tories slightly behind the Dippers.

http://www.ipolitics.ca/2012/07/01/harpers-conservatives-slide-behind-ndp-in-national-poll/

[Smid]

EKOS pegs the Tories slightly behind the Dippers.

http://www.ipolitics.ca/2012/07/01/harpers-conservatives-slide-behind-ndp-in-national-poll/

Plugged the numbers into my spreadsheet to estimate some seat counts, etc. Atlantic Canada seems a bit off - 7.7% of voters didn't register a response against any of the four parties listed, so that may have scrambled the numbers there a little. Obviously just estimates and so on, but seems a bit more reasonable than the poll released last week.

Overall
Tories      116 ( -48 )
Grits        49   ( +15 )
Dippers   124 ( +22 )
Bloc         15   ( +11 )
Greens    1     ( - )

Atlantic Canada
Tories      13 ( -1 )
Grits         4 ( -8 )
Dippers    15 ( +9 )
Greens     0

Quebec
Tories       4 ( -1 )
Grits         10 ( +3 )
Dippers    46 ( -13 )
Bloc          15 ( +11 )

Ontario
Tories       47 ( -26 )
Grits         29 ( +18 )
Dippers    30 ( +8 )

Central Prairies
Tories      15 ( -9 )
Grits         2 ( - )
Dippers    11 ( +9 )

Alberta
Tories      27 ( - )
Dippers    1 ( - )

British Columbia
Tories      10 ( -11 )
Grits         4 ( +2 )
Dippers    21 ( +9 )
Greens     1 ( - )

[RogueBeaver]

Roughly as expected. Now we await the Cabinet shuffle.

[Phony Moderate]

I would just like to comment that Trudeau looks a bit like an older Zac Efron imo....and we all know how important good looks are in politics nowadays....

[MaxQue]

I would just like to comment that Trudeau looks a bit like an older Zac Efron imo....and we all know how important good looks are in politics nowadays....

Justin or Pierre?

[Phony Moderate]

I would just like to comment that Trudeau looks a bit like an older Zac Efron imo....and we all know how important good looks are in politics nowadays....

Justin or Pierre?

The former.