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« Reply #475 on: May 02, 2012, 08:20:45 PM »

No one really fits that description.
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« Reply #476 on: May 02, 2012, 08:39:17 PM »

Yeah, there are people who fit b/c or a/c but none who fit all 3.
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« Reply #477 on: May 02, 2012, 10:02:30 PM »

If ever Harper had an excuse to sack both MacKay and Clement simultaneously, this is it.

http://www.hilltimes.com/news/news/2012/05/02/dnd-amended-report-on-f-35-status-two-weeks-after-ag-ferguson-released-his-report/30623

He'd certainly be better than Hudak, but is far too valuable where he is.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1171299--tim-harper-stephen-harper-tells-jim-flaherty-to-lay-off-ontario?bn=1

WTF? Don't troll.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/02/harper-demands-mulcair-apologize-for-suggestion-that-conrad-black-decision-was-racist/

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« Reply #478 on: May 03, 2012, 11:30:29 AM »

Who do you folk have in mind who would do a better job and are in caucus, but won't run?
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« Reply #479 on: May 04, 2012, 04:18:49 PM »

So this is Geulph-only, at least thus far?

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/Robocalls%2Baddress%2Bsame%2Bused%2BConservative%2Bcandidate%2Bcampaign%2Bworker%2BElections%2BCanada%2Balleges/6567696/story.html


No sh**t.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/bc-liberals-would-face-thrashing-if-election-held-now-poll-shows/article2422205/

How Redford won.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/inside-albertas-winning-progressive-conservative-campaign/article2422953/


Not yet, if ever (Over to you, Bob Rae).

http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/05/04/justin-trudeau-should-be-the-next-leader-of-the-liberal-party-no-seriously/
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« Reply #480 on: May 04, 2012, 07:09:42 PM »

Haha. "We're so horrible and pathetic, let's change our name. Maybe people won't know who we really are."
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« Reply #481 on: May 04, 2012, 07:59:46 PM »

Haha. "We're so horrible and pathetic, let's change our name. Maybe people won't know who we really are."

True, but suppose the B.C. Conservatives and B.C. Liberals were to merge, what would be an acceptable name?  B.C. Progressives?
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« Reply #482 on: May 04, 2012, 08:03:54 PM »

Why should they merge at this stage? The Tories may be able to pull off a provincial equivalent of what happened federally in the '90s. Merger, but with the new party by and for the right. Dunno if Cummins is looking that far ahead, but that would certainly be my long-term goal.
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« Reply #483 on: May 04, 2012, 08:40:38 PM »

I have no idea why they should merge (other than the obvious of forming a united front against the BC NDP.  But the article you gave the link for on the idea of a name change for the B.C. Liberals indicated that their leader thought a name change would help the prospects of a merge.
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« Reply #484 on: May 05, 2012, 06:57:04 PM »

Even if there is pressure, 99% sure that it comes to nothing.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1173339--hebert-is-justin-trudeau-the-liberals-salvation
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« Reply #485 on: May 06, 2012, 06:51:45 PM »
« Edited: May 06, 2012, 06:53:31 PM by Frontline: Wisconsin »

Dix said on QP that he's completely opposed to Gateway and isn't so hot on other new pipeline routes either. Harper and Redford are going to have a serious problem on this issue a year from now.

More Justinmania, this time from Tim Harper.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1174001--tim-harper-bob-rae-tells-liberals-to-remain-calm-hold-the-middle-ground

Mulcair parrots McGuinty.

http://www.theprovince.com/business/High%2Bloonie%2Bcausing%2Bharm%2Bsays%2BMulcair/6574256/story.html

Holy shoot. I'm agreeing with Carol Goar.

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/1173518--after-six-years-in-government-harper-is-getting-sloppy
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« Reply #486 on: May 10, 2012, 05:17:02 PM »
« Edited: May 10, 2012, 05:20:45 PM by Holmes »

Harris Decima Federal Poll (changes from April 2)

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NDP 34% (+2)
CON 30% (-4)
LIB 20% (+1)
GRN 8% (same)
BQ 7% (+1)


Damn, those Atlantic and Ontario numbers. BC and Quebec aren't looking as hot as they were, though.
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« Reply #487 on: May 10, 2012, 05:19:13 PM »

Seat count anyone?
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« Reply #488 on: May 10, 2012, 05:21:37 PM »

With the 30 new seats? Slim Conservative minority, I bet.
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« Reply #489 on: May 10, 2012, 05:28:17 PM »

Presumably you guys are still in second since our Grit friends still don't have a real regional base. Quebec will determine what happens, again.
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« Reply #490 on: May 10, 2012, 05:45:13 PM »

I know. A 32-31 tie in Ontario can still be 30+ more Conservative seats than the NDP in the province.
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« Reply #491 on: May 10, 2012, 06:23:22 PM »

NDP really needs to swoop those non Alberta seats in the West.
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« Reply #492 on: May 10, 2012, 06:34:09 PM »

BC is winnable for Dippers. Not so much SK, MB so long as Mulcair keeps parroting McGuinty with talk of "Dutch disease" plus C&T.
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« Reply #493 on: May 10, 2012, 06:39:37 PM »

BC is winnable for Dippers. Not so much SK, MB so long as Mulcair keeps parroting McGuinty with talk of "Dutch disease" plus C&T.

I wonder how the NDP will be doing in the polls in BC once the unpopular Liberal government is voted out of office, and an NDP government installed?
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« Reply #494 on: May 10, 2012, 06:45:53 PM »

Current levels or slightly better. I don't know much about Dix but he gives me the impression of soft-spoken middling-left, if that makes any sense.

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« Reply #495 on: May 10, 2012, 10:13:08 PM »

At Issue tonight: Everyone agreed that a) Mulcair's oilsands comments are regional wedge politics b) the government's anti-environmentalist hyperbole is way overdoing it.

I expect the next big news (besides the budget omnibus that only we uber-junkies are following) federally will be the federal Liberal executive setting their convention date next month. Immediately followed by Bob Rae's resignation.

Oh, and can someone please explain the "Coderre's a great organizer" meme that's so prevalent in the TO media? Probably part of their total ignorance about Quebec.
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« Reply #496 on: May 14, 2012, 06:41:56 PM »

Strange new national poll from Ipsos Reid.

Ipsos Reid

CON 37% (+3)
NDP 35% (+2)
LIB 19% (-2)
BQ 5% (-2)
GRN 3% (-1)

Quebec

NDP 45%
BQ 23%
LIB 17%
CON 13%
GRN 1%

Ontario

CON 36%
NDP 35%
LIB 23%
GRN 6%

Strange only because of the NDP's 22 point lead in Quebec and are in the mid thirties in Ontario, yet are in second place nationally... while every other poll has them ahead in BC and the Atlantic, and not too bad in the prairies. Wanna see crosstabs on this.

Regardless, mid thirties in Ontario is pretty good.
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« Reply #497 on: May 15, 2012, 12:14:51 AM »

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/05/14/bc-ndp-poll.html
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« Reply #498 on: May 15, 2012, 12:39:39 AM »


"Free enterprise coalition"? Really?
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« Reply #499 on: May 15, 2012, 12:50:46 AM »

BC is winnable for Dippers. Not so much SK, MB so long as Mulcair keeps parroting McGuinty with talk of "Dutch disease" plus C&T.

I wonder how the NDP will be doing in the polls in BC once the unpopular Liberal government is voted out of office, and an NDP government installed?

That's the problem with looking at these poll numbers; they won't mean anything come 2015, since a provincial NDP government will have been in power for quite some time by then. It's the same deal in Manitoba.
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