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« Reply #450 on: April 24, 2012, 05:55:19 PM »

I wonder how the new Ontario budget deal will play out politically.  Seems to me like a modest victory for the NDP, and also a precedent for Liberals NDP working together maybe. 
    It might also energize the left wing base, with this example that voting does matter, that in fact politicians will sometimes vote to tax the rich.
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« Reply #451 on: April 24, 2012, 06:11:02 PM »

I wonder how the new Ontario budget deal will play out politically.  Seems to me like a modest victory for the NDP, and also a precedent for Liberals NDP working together maybe. 
    It might also energize the left wing base, with this example that voting does matter, that in fact politicians will sometimes vote to tax the rich.

Short-term boost for the NDP.
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« Reply #452 on: April 25, 2012, 05:08:41 AM »

I agree with Rogue for Mount Royal, not for Papineau.

It's well-known than it's Cotler last term, and, if he leaves, Conservatives should take the seat, except if Liberals manages to find a very good candidate.

For Papineau, Trudeau would win, but that's because polls are saying than Liberals are still leading with non-Franco Québécois.
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« Reply #453 on: April 25, 2012, 05:00:16 PM »

Anybody have a good 1945 federal election map with ridings?
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« Reply #454 on: April 25, 2012, 06:38:27 PM »

No, but I do have the annual Hill Times survey.

http://www.hilltimes.com/sexy-and-savvy/hill-life-people/2012/04/23/baird-voted-best-cabinet-minister-in-question-period/30519?page_requested=1
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« Reply #455 on: April 25, 2012, 10:13:54 PM »

Anybody have a good 1945 federal election map with ridings?

Why?
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« Reply #456 on: April 25, 2012, 10:15:12 PM »

I want to see where CCF won seats outside of SK.
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« Reply #457 on: April 25, 2012, 10:16:23 PM »

I want to see where CCF won seats outside of SK.

Well, here's the results by riding: http://www.parl.gc.ca/About/Parliament/FederalRidingsHistory/hfer.asp?Language=E&Search=Gres&genElection=20&ridProvince=0&submit1=Search

If you want to know where the ridings are, you can click on the names and it will give you the boundary descriptions.
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« Reply #458 on: April 25, 2012, 10:24:08 PM »

Cariboo - Central BC
Kootenay East- Eastern BC
Skeena - Northern BC
Vancouver East - self explanatory
Churchill - Northern Manitoba
Dauphin - Western Manitoba
Selkirk - Eastern Manitoba
Winnipeg North - self explanatory
Winnipeg North Centre - " "
Cape Breton South - Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia

Ridings coloured based on who currently holds the seats
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« Reply #459 on: April 26, 2012, 01:26:57 AM »

Ontario results are a  little depressing after reading the wiki article. I was hoping there would be more PC vs CCF races, I could only find one.
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« Reply #460 on: April 26, 2012, 07:14:21 AM »

I think that I do have the maps for the Ontario boundaries from WWI up until the 1950s, so I could at least do ON.
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« Reply #461 on: April 26, 2012, 09:58:07 AM »

I think that I do have the maps for the Ontario boundaries from WWI up until the 1950s, so I could at least do ON.

We're still waiting to see these maps, Hash Wink
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« Reply #462 on: April 27, 2012, 08:58:41 AM »
« Edited: April 27, 2012, 09:58:03 AM by Holmes »

Nanos has new numbers.

Conservatives - 34.7
NDP - 32.4
Liberals - 23.3
Green - 4.2
BQ - 3.9


Hmm. NDP has passed the Grits in Ontario in a Nanos poll.

New Forum poll as well.

NDP - 36
Conservatives - 33
Liberals - 22
BQ - 6
Greens - 2


pst liberal supports go ndp.
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« Reply #463 on: April 27, 2012, 04:30:22 PM »

The crosstabs on the Nanos poll seem odd. The NDP's ahead in the Atlantic provinces but nowhere near the Tories in British Columbia?
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« Reply #464 on: April 27, 2012, 04:33:33 PM »

Eh, weirdness can happen with that type of thing. I remember a poll breakdown from 2003 or 2004 that had the LibDems leading in the Midlands. So... er... yeah. Basically.
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« Reply #465 on: April 27, 2012, 04:33:46 PM »

The crosstabs on the Nanos poll seem odd. The NDP's ahead in the Atlantic provinces but nowhere near the Tories in British Columbia?

This is what I hate about our pollsters- such wide variations.
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« Reply #466 on: April 27, 2012, 04:47:39 PM »

What's the highest percentage the NDP have ever had in a federal VI poll?
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« Reply #467 on: April 27, 2012, 04:49:45 PM »

Broadbent had numbers with the NDP in first during Mulroney's first term a couple of times. Dunno what the precise numbers were.
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« Reply #468 on: April 27, 2012, 05:25:44 PM »

In '87, right?

I'm not gonna put too much stock in a single poll's regional crosstabs. The only thing we can be sure of is that the Conservatives are doing well in Alberta, NDP is doing well in Quebec and BC, Ontario is in play with slight Torie lead and everything else is up in the air.
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« Reply #469 on: April 28, 2012, 12:16:35 AM »

37% in 1987: http://www.cbc.ca/archives/categories/politics/parties-leaders/ed-broadbent/ndp-tops-the-polls.html
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« Reply #470 on: April 29, 2012, 03:20:56 AM »


They polled 41% later that year:

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« Reply #471 on: April 29, 2012, 01:30:19 PM »

Proof that the NDP isn't at its all time peak.
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« Reply #472 on: April 30, 2012, 10:02:17 PM »

We were all totally shocked by this. Right?

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/04/30/bob-rae-likely-to-to-resign-from-interim-gig-to-run-for-liberal-party-leadership/

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« Reply #473 on: May 02, 2012, 05:52:55 PM »

Rae is a loser. With Mulcair at the helm of the NDP and considering his past, he won't bring the party up. For being such a Parliamentarian, he's been disappointing lately. If only he'd retire so the NDP had a better chance at Toronto Centre.
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« Reply #474 on: May 02, 2012, 08:08:39 PM »

Who else is there that's a) in caucus b) willing to run c) would do a better job?
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