Canada General Discussion

[MaxQue]

I know.

But at least, that ideology is coherent. Downsize the state, make people "more responsible". It is coherent, at least and I can see their point.

Neoliberalism is taxing more the poor and taxing less or even subsising the rich. It isn't even an ideology, it is rich people using their political infuence to get richer.

[Hash]

More like a weird hybrid of reactionary neoliberalism, but whatev.

[Хahar 🤔]

The Liberal Party is of course Canada's conservative party.

[Hatman 🍁]

In non political news, Ontario wins the Brier!

[RogueBeaver]

Mmm hmm. I'm hoping for a pincer movement next election by Grits and Tories on this subject.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/03/12/stephane-dion-ndps-separatist-pandering-threatens-national-unity/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Good.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-news/canada-to-seek-more-trade-ties-with-russia/article2365945/

Either the MSM converts en masse to the American rules or doesn't at all. Ridiculous to have one set of journalistic standards for Toews and another for everyone else when it comes to personal lives.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1144549--vikileaks-case-raises-debate-about-whether-divorce-files-should-be-open-to-public

[RogueBeaver]

Oh Lord, what p'tit crisse had this brilliant idea?

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/House%2BCommons%2Bhold%2Babortion%2Brelated%2Bdebate%2BApril/6296017/story.html

[MaxQue]

Oh Lord, what p'tit crisse had this brilliant idea?

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/House%2BCommons%2Bhold%2Babortion%2Brelated%2Bdebate%2BApril/6296017/story.html

It is written in the article, it's Stephen Woodworth, MP for Kitchener Centre.

I suppose it is irony, or you really favor reopening that debate?

[RogueBeaver]

Oh Lord, what p'tit crisse had this brilliant idea?

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/House%2BCommons%2Bhold%2Babortion%2Brelated%2Bdebate%2BApril/6296017/story.html

It is written in the article, it's Stephen Woodworth, MP for Kitchener Centre.

I suppose it is irony, or you really favor reopening that debate?

Irony.

[RogueBeaver]

Step in the right direction.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/03/14/paradis-industry.html

I'll be generous and say this is a "Plan B if we don't regain OO" thing, since he's been quite certain that the Grits will recover. Plus saying he'd entertain discussion of the idea under similar circumstances back in August. Sort of like how the separatist thing is only repeating something he said 2 years ago. It's a pattern, but what's behind it... don't ask me.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2012/03/14/trudeau-endorses-future-coalition-with-ndp

[RogueBeaver]

OK, who's actually leading in Ontario with the new Nanos poll showing a 10-point Grit lead and Forum showing a 10-point Tory lead? One thing I hate about our pollsters is the wide range of results they produce.

Oops.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/03/15/john-ivison-ag-to-deliver-scathing-report-on-f35s/

[RedPrometheus]

OK, who's actually leading in Ontario with the new Nanos poll showing a 10-point Grit lead and Forum showing a 10-point Tory lead? One thing I hate about our pollsters is the wide range of results they produce.

Oops.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/03/15/john-ivison-ag-to-deliver-scathing-report-on-f35s/

It is quite strange that polls in Canada tend to be quite inconsistent.

But I hope the Tories will decied to scrap the F-35 deal. The defence budget can be spent much better.

[Hatman 🍁]

lololol

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/inside-politics-blog/2012/03/bus-ted-danielle-smith-campaign-gone-wildrose.html

[MaxQue]

Rather unfortunate design.

[Хahar 🤔]

I think my favorite part of the article is the way it doesn't actually address the issue. It took me a while to figure out what was going on.

[Smid]

She has such a cool campaign bust! I mean, bus...

[Hatman 🍁]

Attack ad against Bob Rae: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XgsjkPb_AM

Do the Tories realize that an election is 3 years away? I guess everyone thinks we're still in perpetual election mode just like before 2011.

By the way, the NDP is preparing ads after the convention trying to promote whoever the new leader will be. Smart move, for sure. I don't think I've ever seen NDP ads outside election time, so it will be interesting to see.

[Make Politics Boring Again]

Attack ad against Bob Rae: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XgsjkPb_AM

Do the Tories realize that an election is 3 years away? I guess everyone thinks we're still in perpetual election mode just like before 2011.

By the way, the NDP is preparing ads after the convention trying to promote whoever the new leader will be. Smart move, for sure. I don't think I've ever seen NDP ads outside election time, so it will be interesting to see.

Good thing that unlike the previous two Liberal "leaders", Bob Rae already has a plan to respond.

[RogueBeaver]

Attack ad against Bob Rae: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XgsjkPb_AM

Do the Tories realize that an election is 3 years away? I guess everyone thinks we're still in perpetual election mode just like before 2011.

By the way, the NDP is preparing ads after the convention trying to promote whoever the new leader will be. Smart move, for sure. I don't think I've ever seen NDP ads outside election time, so it will be interesting to see.

Good thing that unlike the previous two Liberal "leaders", Bob Rae already has a plan to respond.

Yep. Don't bitch about the Permanent Campaign- start your own, like Rae and Mulcair want to do.

[RogueBeaver]

Oh, and if Rae really wants to use said proposed fund for a defense of Rae Days... strategic stupidity is the kindest thing I can say. Repudiate it and run on Brisonomics. 'Tis not complicated, Grits.

[Holmes]

Attacking Rae and the Liberals isn't a bad idea though, just because they're a third party. There's a lot of Torie vs. Grit ridings in southern Ontario that can tip the balance between majority and minority, and I know the Conservatives want to keep them.

[RogueBeaver]

OUT!!!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/paradis-stays-put-in-cabinet-despite-ethics-rebuke-in-jaffer-case/article2378214/

[RogueBeaver]

Two things this week: the budget on Thursday, Le Match on Saturday. Something tells me I'll like the results of one better than the other.

[Holmes]

Just some random musings. For all the bad Turmel-mania did for the NDP, along with the boring leadership race, she did keep the party in the second place against the so-called powerful Bob Rae. Interesting how the Tories didn't really attack her or the leadership candidates, but not so surprising how they did right after Mulcair won the race. If the most recent Environics poll is to be trusted, and the Tories and Dippers are tied 30-30, it means that people are jumping ship from the Tories, but aren't sure who is the better alternative. It's Mulcair's job now to prove to these voters that it's his party that is the best alternative - specifically in Ontario, Saskatchewan, BC and the Atlantic - according to the poll, they lead in the two latter.

As a New Democrat, I worry about Rae, though. Not because I think he's this powerful, brilliant leader, but because I think he'll turn off voters in Ontario from voting NDP, and Liberal, giving Harper enough support in the province to keep some important ridings in the GTA to cling to power.

[RogueBeaver]

Ontarians will not vote for NEP II, i.e. C&T. Ditto the West. We and the Grits will hang it around Mulcair's neck like we did Dion and Iggy.

[Holmes]

Perhaps the Tories can call Mulcair a child pornographer sympathizer like they did for average Canadians, while Grits post anonymous tweets about his personal life.