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« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2012, 09:00:58 PM »

lol budget vote: http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Politics/1244504890/ID=2177072181
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« Reply #76 on: June 13, 2012, 09:10:55 PM »

There will be 800+ amendments; the MPs will be pulling an all nighter.
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« Reply #77 on: June 14, 2012, 07:23:24 AM »

And they're still going...
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« Reply #78 on: June 14, 2012, 04:49:59 PM »

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« Reply #79 on: June 16, 2012, 09:29:04 PM »

I was just going to post the FR poll, but you guys beat me to it. Ugh, I didn't realize that Trudeau would bump the Liberals numbers that much. Still though, 37-30 is a nice lead Smiley
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« Reply #80 on: June 16, 2012, 09:37:34 PM »

Some notes about the FR poll:

The NDP is ahead in every age group except 65+
The NDP even leads among men (36-32)
The NDP is tied with the Tories in Ontario and are ahead in the Prairies!
The NDP is ahead in every income category, including nearly half of voters earning less than $20,000 (voting the way they should Wink )

With Trudeau:
The NDP drops to 3rd in Ontario
Liberals gain 12% in Quebec, mostly to the expense of the NDP

Harper's approval is 31-61
Mulcair's approval is 39-31
Rae is 40-32
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« Reply #81 on: June 17, 2012, 10:45:00 PM »

Ugh, Christina Blizzard is a huge HP
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« Reply #82 on: June 18, 2012, 05:17:24 PM »

Harper had the experience of being in opposition during a minority government, so he knew what he had to do. McGuinty hasn't had that luxury.
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« Reply #83 on: June 18, 2012, 09:45:45 PM »

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« Reply #84 on: June 19, 2012, 12:34:15 AM »

Great find that Teddy posted on Facebook: http://c-spanvideo.org/program/Parli
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« Reply #85 on: June 26, 2012, 09:59:13 PM »

I think the best plan for the NDP re: the Senate is to hold a national referendum on it. If Canadians want the status quo, then we start appointing Senators. If not, than we have a mandate to open up constitutional talks.
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« Reply #86 on: June 26, 2012, 11:32:18 PM »

If the voters want the Senate abolished, than that is definitely a mandate to open constitutional talks, so yes. However, 50%+1 might not seem like enough, as it might need to pass in 7 provinces as well. (Possible though, as there are only 3 Maritime provinces- Nfld isn't as over represented as the Maritimes)
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« Reply #87 on: July 03, 2012, 07:31:45 AM »

The Liberals lack a coherent ideology. They are what you want them to be.

The party started as being pro-free trade, pro business etc, pro immigration, pro US then some wars came along, and they became pro-welfare state (one wonders if they would have gone that direction without pressure from the CCF/NDP). During the Trudeau years, the party was quite socially liberal, even to the left of the NDP, and were economically left of centre as well. By the free trade election of 1988, they had done a 180 on their platform of 100 years ago. Then came the recession of the early 1990s, and the party was forced to the right economically, and that's where they were the last time they were in power.
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« Reply #88 on: July 03, 2012, 09:31:26 PM »
« Edited: July 03, 2012, 09:33:40 PM by Hatman »

Ooh, another by-election.

NDP never finished higher than third here until 2011. They finished 4th in 2008. Although, as Al pointed out the seat went NDP provincially in 1990. (well, both seats the federal riding presently covers, Durham East and Durham--York)

ETA: Durham East also went NDP in 1975.
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« Reply #89 on: July 04, 2012, 10:01:47 PM »

lol the Tories are full of a bunch of terrible MPs. Of course, they keep getting re-elected. When the NDP has a bad MP, the voters shove them under the bus. One reason I think Ryan Cleary is toast.
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« Reply #90 on: July 05, 2012, 09:35:47 AM »

Im not too sure I understand. The Alberta Liberals are to the left of most provincial Liberal parties, and probably to the left of the national one as well. Why would you vote for them if you're a federal Tory? Especially when you have a Red Tory like Redford to vote for?
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« Reply #91 on: July 05, 2012, 11:06:01 AM »

oic. I thought you were stipulating that you voted Liberal this year. Indeed the Alberta Liberals used to be quite right wing, especially in the 1990s.
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« Reply #92 on: July 07, 2012, 08:38:53 PM »

In this political climate, a Red Tory would win in a massive landslide.
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« Reply #93 on: July 07, 2012, 09:00:49 PM »

In this political climate, a Red Tory would win in a massive landslide.

Maybe, but the leadership's another matter. Harper's probable successor as party leader is Albertan, but the name's Jason Kenney. Not Alison Redford.

Jason Kenney is a very smart man, but I don't think he's that electable. Canadians probably wont tolerate another Albertan as PM, but they might make an exception for Redford. But yeah, she probably wouldnt become leader. It will probably be a "blue" as you say.
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« Reply #94 on: July 19, 2012, 09:23:49 PM »

Guys, Im really starting to fear Trudeau. We're doing a survey at work, where we're asking Canadian's support for Liberal leader. Not one person told me someone other than Trudeau. Of course, the sample of who I did surveys with is small, but it's telling.
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« Reply #95 on: July 19, 2012, 09:51:52 PM »

Of course regular Canadians don't know anyone else with prospects of running for the leadership, other than our lord and savior Justin Trudeau.

Well, they were given a list. But yeah, I'm sure most people weren't familiar with most. We asked for people's second preferences too, which was more interesting.
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« Reply #96 on: July 19, 2012, 10:06:55 PM »

So who led second preferences? Garneau, David McGuinty or LeBland?

Didn't do enough surveys for anyone to stand out. Garneau, McGuinty and Cauchon all got one. That's all I can remember. Most people were undecided beyond Trudeau. Remember, Im calling the general public, not just Liberals (well, actually our panel members)
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« Reply #97 on: September 27, 2012, 06:51:57 AM »

I think during the SSM vote, every single Scarborough MP (all Liberal at the time), voted against it. Really weird, considering how much of a potential the NDP has there.

Also, lol @ Status of Women Minister Rona Ambrose voting in favour of this. But then again, this is really a debate that should be decided by women.
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« Reply #98 on: October 16, 2012, 05:08:55 PM »

In today's episode of Conservative Party Fiscal Responsibility!, we'll talk about James Moore spending $25 million on renaming the Canadian Museum of Civilizations to the History Museum.
For some reason, I thought it was the Nature museum they were renaming. This makes much more sense, but is unnecessary and still doesn't make *that* much sense, as the museum isn't all about history.
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« Reply #99 on: October 17, 2012, 03:24:27 PM »

Quick question for Ontarians: what's going on with the wild poll variations? Cause some polls have a Lib-PC dead heat and others a PC-NDP dead heat with the Liberals a distant third.

Isn't Nanos the only pollster to show the Liberals polling decently? The latest Forum shows the PCs at 37, the NDP at 35 and the Liberals at 20. Incidentally, if that result ever came to be, I'd probably commit suicide. Hudak is a disgusting scumbag who would be a total and utter disaster for the province (possibly worse than Mike Harris) and who would totally destroy whatever good is left in Ontario. Horwath is a horrible person who would be a crappy Premier; if the ONDP was led by some Mulcair-type, I really wouldn't care and would probably be voting NDP, but Horwath is so horrible. Ugh.
What's so awful about Horwath?  Even for a Liberal voter?

Dont mind him, he can be a Liberal hack sometimes.

Horwath is extremely popular in Ontario, certainly compared to her rivals. It's one of the reasons why we are now ahead in the polls in the province.
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