Canada General Discussion

[RogueBeaver]

Despite disagreeing with her politically I've always liked Olivia Chow. Ford is an embarrassment. So here's hoping she runs.

[RogueBeaver]

PLQ leadership update: Bachand's in.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-quebecoise/201209/28/01-4578519-direction-du-plq-raymond-bachand-est-candidat.php

[Vote UKIP!]

Despite disagreeing with her politically I've always liked Olivia Chow. Ford is an embarrassment. So here's hoping she runs.

She could have been NDP leader if she wanted.

[MaxQue]

So, Chow in Toronto and Coderre in Montreal?
Well, that would be in improvement over Ford (the tea partier) and Tremblay (the clueless guy which is never aware of anything and seems incredibly naive).

[RogueBeaver]

Khadr's back.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/the-us-dumps-a-problem-on-ottawa-with-omar-khadrs-returns/article4577095/

McGuinty gets 86% at his leadership review.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1264373--dalton-mcguinty-wins-leadership-review

Quick question for Ontarians: what's going on with the wild poll variations? Cause some polls have a Lib-PC dead heat and others a PC-NDP dead heat with the Liberals a distant third.

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Quick question for Ontarians: what's going on with the wild poll variations? Cause some polls have a Lib-PC dead heat and others a PC-NDP dead heat with the Liberals a distant third.

Isn't Nanos the only pollster to show the Liberals polling decently? The latest Forum shows the PCs at 37, the NDP at 35 and the Liberals at 20. Incidentally, if that result ever came to be, I'd probably commit suicide. Hudak is a disgusting scumbag who would be a total and utter disaster for the province (possibly worse than Mike Harris) and who would totally destroy whatever good is left in Ontario. Horwath is a horrible person who would be a crappy Premier; if the ONDP was led by some Mulcair-type, I really wouldn't care and would probably be voting NDP, but Horwath is so horrible. Ugh.

[RogueBeaver]

Early '90s all over again? Truth be told I have no confidence in the PCs to win an election after self-nuking in 2 consecutive open-goal elections. Agreed on Horwath being a horrible premier if she won. Theoretically everyone should lose but in practice someone will win.

Anyone have any idea what the seat projection would look like? Or better put, who has better vote distribution: Team Blue or Team Orange?

[RogueBeaver]

PLQ leadership update: Moreau's in tomorrow, Couillard either Tuesday or Wednesday.

http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Politique/2012/09/25/002-couillard-course-plq.shtml

http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Politique/2012/09/30/002-pierre-moreau-candidat-plq.shtml

[Kitteh]

According to Eric Grenier's projections (can't post links yet), Forum's poll would give the liberals three seats. Wow.

[RogueBeaver]

Don't post 308 links, Hatman will blow a fuse.

[Kitteh]

Don't post 308 links, Hatman will blow a fuse.

I know 308 isn't great, but his tracking poll reports are just uniform swing with regional-level data, which is just about all anybody can do right now.

[RogueBeaver]

Couillard lays out his manifesto, will announce Wednesday.

http://journalmetro.com/actualites/national/164832/couillard-veut-rouvrir-le-debat-identitaire/

[RogueBeaver]

Both Raylene Rankin and Barbara Ann Scott have passed away today. RIP.

[RogueBeaver]

Rob Anders reminds once again just how RL trollish he is. Dunno why the PM keeps protecting this guy from a nomination challenge.

http://www.ipolitics.ca/2012/10/01/lunch-with-anders-speaks-from-conviction-and-going-nowhere/

Another game of chicken here in Ontario. Someone will blink.

http://warrenkinsella.com/2012/10/ontario-election-coming-soon/#comments

Horwath also sounding more equivocal, per Twitter.

Per Twitter, rancher Judith Guichon is BC's new LG.

[Holmes]

Ew, Beav, tell me you don't read Warren Kinsella's crappy blog. I mean, just look at his most recent post. He wrote a Trudeau speech, and it begins with him likening himself to Abraham Lincoln.

[Virginia Yellow Dog]

What's the likelihood of Conservatives holding on to their majority in Parliament after the elections in 2015 or so? I have my thoughts (especially when you consider the economic recovery from this recent recession will likely be in full throttle by then), but what are yours? 

[You kip if you want to...]

What's the likelihood of Conservatives holding on to their majority in Parliament after the elections in 2015 or so? I have my thoughts (especially when you consider the economic recovery from this recent recession will likely be in full throttle by then), but what are yours? 

Voter fatigue normally hits in majorly around the 7-8th year

[RogueBeaver]

Anything could happen in the campaign- Orange Crush happened in the final 2 weeks. Right now I'm fairly optimistic.

[DC Al Fine]

What's the likelihood of Conservatives holding on to their majority in Parliament after the elections in 2015 or so? I have my thoughts (especially when you consider the economic recovery from this recent recession will likely be in full throttle by then), but what are yours? 

If the economy's in good shape and the anti-Harper vote splits favourably, the Tories would keep their majority. That said Conservative minority seems most likely at this point.

[Foucaulf]

A few stories from BC I'm following:

- An article from Vancouver's Georgia Straight from a week ago accused John Furlong, the Vancouver Olympics CEO, of abusing native students on his first visit to Canada. Furlong responds with a lawsuit while other publications scramble to fill in the story.

- Unrest over John Cummins's leadership in the BC Conservatives boils over. Cummins orders all party dissenters to resign their membership, while oddly giving any takers a full refuns.  It's not a substantial story, but it's a chance to poke fun at the Conservatives; at this rate they don't look like the people who can build the coalition which takes down the NDP.

-Elaborating on that BC Lieutenant-Governor announcement: Guichon is a highly-ranked lobbyist for the ranchers and donated to the Liberal party.

[MaxQue]

Ontario PM, Dalton McGuinty resigns.

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In today's episode of Conservative Party Fiscal Responsibility!, we'll talk about James Moore spending $25 million on renaming the Canadian Museum of Civilizations to the History Museum.

[RogueBeaver]

Yeah, I'll freely admit to being disappointed with Harper's record on deficits. As for McGuinty, no surprise except possibly timing.

[Hatman 🍁]

In today's episode of Conservative Party Fiscal Responsibility!, we'll talk about James Moore spending $25 million on renaming the Canadian Museum of Civilizations to the History Museum.

For some reason, I thought it was the Nature museum they were renaming. This makes much more sense, but is unnecessary and still doesn't make *that* much sense, as the museum isn't all about history.

[MaxQue]

At least, people will stop confusing "Musée des Civilisations" (in Ottawa, federal) and "Musée de la Civilisation" (in Quebec City, provincial).