Canada General Discussion

[Hatman 🍁]

It's also ridiculous about tracing the IP address. I think all of the Parliament is on the same IP address, or at least multiple computers. Heck, I may have edited Wikipedia in the past using a Parliament IP address. Doesn't mean I am Vikileaks.

[RogueBeaver]

Different perspective.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/02/17/national-post-editorial-board-what-vikileaks-hath-wrought/

[Hatman 🍁]

I'm surprised the National Post still exists...

[Хahar 🤔]

I'm reminded of Maxime Bernier.

[Hash]

That's not funny, it's vile shiit which has no place in our public discourse.

No, it's pretty funny.

When you say "everyone against my bill supports child pornography", you get what's coming to you. You want to fight dirty, prepare to fight dirty. Besides, it's his own fault he chose to have an affair with his kid's babysitter.

Reminds a lot of Republicans who do stuff like this. Like, Newt Gingrich.

I fully agree with this. If Viki the Moron wants to spy on our private lives, then it's fair game for us to know about his private life.

[Make Politics Boring Again]

And besides, it's not like the Conservatives have not used anonymous ways to personally attack an opponent (e.g. the last minute "scandal" involving Layton).

I bet that whoever did Vikileaks either is or will be on the party strategic team. Seriously, that idea was brilliant.

[RogueBeaver]

My final view on Vikileaks: if we're going to use the American politico-journalistic standards (which I prefer to ours, BTW) then there should be a wholescale conversion. Not just for Vic Toews but everyone. Otherwise, keep our current practice of informing the public only when the PPG judges it relevant to the politician's duties. Not that I'm defending Toews- I find both the bill, his comments and the private conduct we have now learned of to be beyond the pale. I just think the PPG shouldn't be selective about the who/when of private conduct potentially relevant to our politicians' public image. Everything on everyone beyond mere trivialities, then let us draw our own conclusions. Just as in the US.

On the Bourassa book duel, David's opinion is mine.

http://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/343050/la-rehabilitation


On QP today the panel argued for retention of current PPG practice WRT Vikileaks. Agreed with the panelists and disagreed with Delacourt's blog post on alleged Tory "banana peels", saying we've had them every year since forming government. The old refugee bill, income trusts, prorogation, etc. Not a fabled 6-year itch. Their collective verdict on Trudeau's antics could be summarized as "grow up."

[RogueBeaver]

Sock it to 'em.

http://www.canada.com/news/Tandt+Politicians+will+duke+ring+cancer+foundation/6177798/story.html

[RogueBeaver]

Even more on Vikigate.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1133845--tim-harper-a-mean-town-just-got-a-whole-lot-meaner

http://blogs.canada.com/2012/02/18/why-nobody-wrote-about-vic-toews-divorce/

[Hatman 🍁]

Politician's personal lives seemed to be fair game when the Sun attacked Layton just before the election with the whole tanning bed incident. Good thing it back fired.

[Hatman 🍁]

http://blogs.canada.com/2012/02/18/why-nobody-wrote-about-vic-toews-divorce/

I know who the "closeted homosexual with the door wide open" is (John Baird), but who is the former married cabinet minister with the young male lover?

[Хahar 🤔]

Must we call it Vikigate? If we're going to use the name of an American scandal, why not call it Viki Dome? That would be a much better name.

[RogueBeaver]

It said a previous Cabinet. John English reported that Trudeau had some gays in his cabinet, but Maher is probably referring to someone from the Chretien/Martin era. If anyone has an idea...

Fine, VikiDome it is.

Any bets on Le Match?

[RogueBeaver]

We should scrap them and buy SSNs from France or the US.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/opinion/64952-doubts-about-subs-continue-surface

[RogueBeaver]

Is the House in session today? CPAC didn't cover QP for one, if one in fact happened...

[RogueBeaver]

Finally.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/finley-to-make-the-case-for-adjusting-old-age-security/article2344215/

Both were/are garbage.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/02/20/bill-c-30-andrew-coyne/

[RogueBeaver]

Should be interesting. A Redford-style spending orgy will only spike Tory numbers, so Grits beware.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/bc-politics/bc-liberals-wary-of-ndp-rivals-gamble-on-the-budget/article2344220/

[Hatman 🍁]

Is the House in session today? CPAC didn't cover QP for one, if one in fact happened...

I don't think Parliament was open. I was going to go in and work on my contract, but then I got a message that they weren't there. I thought it was a provincial holiday, but I guess any excuse to not work, eh?

[MaxQue]

House doesn't sit this week.

This is a "constituency week", I suppose.

[RogueBeaver]

Ah. Now it looks like the budget's delayed until late March, maybe even early April.  So only the NDP convention to watch...

[RogueBeaver]

He won't rule out "revenue increases" or any number of Dadisms though.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1134385--dalton-mcguinty-rules-out-tax-hikes-to-pay-off-ontario-deficit

[RogueBeaver]

The PM made a mistake here. He should've kept Bellemare in reserve as a star candidate rather than put him in the Senate.

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-canadienne/201202/22/01-4498650-quebec-en-rupture-avec-la-population-sur-c-10-dit-marc-bellemare.php

[RogueBeaver]

Promotion yes, but he's doing nothing to help Pelciquistes organize.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/bob-rae-promotes-liberals-in-quebec-as-ndp-membership-rises-in-province-140028203.html

[MaxQue]

If Harper made mistakes, good.

The idea of fixed sentences is an abheration.
And whole use of the "victims rights" to promote insane ideas on the justice system is sickening and is an insult to the noble cause of victims rights.

[RogueBeaver]

His mistake was not keeping Bellemare in reserve as a star candidate. Lord knows our Quebec team is weak.