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Holmes
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« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2012, 07:47:11 PM »

She's not stupid, and forcing an election would be stupid from the NDP's POV. She can't prop him up forever though, as the fates of Iggy and David Lewis would remind her.

She knows it. Not that an election would be bad for the NDP - it would be bad for everyone. It's just been six months. But if she can get some of her proposals in, get press, and watch the NDP rise in the polls, why not milk it?
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« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2012, 06:13:58 PM »

The Young Liberals are such potheads.
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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2012, 03:39:53 PM »

A Northern Ontario New Democrat. I'm pissed right now. Stupid.
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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2012, 05:46:04 PM »

Well screw Bruce Hyer. He doesn't care about Northern Ontario. Just cares about himself. Jerk.
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2012, 07:40:05 PM »

I'm so furious right now. First this. Now that idiot Bev Oda's hotel scandal, after Harper's budget cut her ministry by the tune of nearly $400 million and after his budget raises our retirement age and cuts our pensions. And it cost the taxpayers $665 a night. Of course, she paid the difference. But it's like we're paying them. We are paying them to f.uck us over. And they're laughing. Because they win, they always win. They lie and cheat and they always win. I can't stand it.
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Holmes
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E: -6.45, S: -5.74

« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2012, 09:05:33 AM »
« Edited: April 24, 2012, 09:39:57 AM by Holmes »

I think the federal Liberals are associated with some of the provincial parties, ftr. I believe they're all in the Maritimes, though.


New CROP poll of Quebec has NDP at 51%, Bloc at 18%, Liberals at 15%, Conservatives at 12%. So which ridings wouldn't go NDP? Mount Royal? Maybe Saint-Laurent-Cartierville? Beauce?
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Holmes
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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2012, 11:55:45 AM »

I think the federal Liberals are associated with some of the provincial parties, ftr. I believe they're all in the Maritimes, though.


New CROP poll of Quebec has NDP at 51%, Bloc at 18%, Liberals at 15%, Conservatives at 12%. So which ridings wouldn't go NDP? Mount Royal? Maybe Saint-Laurent-Cartierville? Beauce?

Saint-Laurent-Cartierville, Beauce, Papineau, Saint-Leonard-Saint-Michel. That's it.

I think Papineau would fall, but not Mount Royal.
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« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2012, 08:58:41 AM »
« Edited: April 27, 2012, 09:58:03 AM by Holmes »

Nanos has new numbers.

Conservatives - 34.7
NDP - 32.4
Liberals - 23.3
Green - 4.2
BQ - 3.9


Hmm. NDP has passed the Grits in Ontario in a Nanos poll.

New Forum poll as well.

NDP - 36
Conservatives - 33
Liberals - 22
BQ - 6
Greens - 2


pst liberal supports go ndp.
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Holmes
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« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2012, 05:25:44 PM »

In '87, right?

I'm not gonna put too much stock in a single poll's regional crosstabs. The only thing we can be sure of is that the Conservatives are doing well in Alberta, NDP is doing well in Quebec and BC, Ontario is in play with slight Torie lead and everything else is up in the air.
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Holmes
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« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2012, 05:52:55 PM »

Rae is a loser. With Mulcair at the helm of the NDP and considering his past, he won't bring the party up. For being such a Parliamentarian, he's been disappointing lately. If only he'd retire so the NDP had a better chance at Toronto Centre.
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« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2012, 08:20:45 PM »

No one really fits that description.
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« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2012, 07:09:42 PM »

Haha. "We're so horrible and pathetic, let's change our name. Maybe people won't know who we really are."
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« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2012, 05:17:02 PM »
« Edited: May 10, 2012, 05:20:45 PM by Holmes »

Harris Decima Federal Poll (changes from April 2)

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NDP 34% (+2)
CON 30% (-4)
LIB 20% (+1)
GRN 8% (same)
BQ 7% (+1)


Damn, those Atlantic and Ontario numbers. BC and Quebec aren't looking as hot as they were, though.
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E: -6.45, S: -5.74

« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2012, 05:21:37 PM »

With the 30 new seats? Slim Conservative minority, I bet.
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« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2012, 05:45:13 PM »

I know. A 32-31 tie in Ontario can still be 30+ more Conservative seats than the NDP in the province.
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E: -6.45, S: -5.74

« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2012, 06:41:56 PM »

Strange new national poll from Ipsos Reid.

Ipsos Reid

CON 37% (+3)
NDP 35% (+2)
LIB 19% (-2)
BQ 5% (-2)
GRN 3% (-1)

Quebec

NDP 45%
BQ 23%
LIB 17%
CON 13%
GRN 1%

Ontario

CON 36%
NDP 35%
LIB 23%
GRN 6%

Strange only because of the NDP's 22 point lead in Quebec and are in the mid thirties in Ontario, yet are in second place nationally... while every other poll has them ahead in BC and the Atlantic, and not too bad in the prairies. Wanna see crosstabs on this.

Regardless, mid thirties in Ontario is pretty good.
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Holmes
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E: -6.45, S: -5.74

« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2012, 06:37:30 AM »

Forum Ontario poll, May 14

Provincial:
Cons 34/ NDP 32/ Libs 27

Federal:
Cons 35/ NDP 35/ Libs 22

NDP up in 416 with 44%, but I'm not gonna trust that with such small sample size. Still, does anything think they can carry Toronto Center with that number?
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« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2012, 12:51:14 PM »

But where does it end? This is so stupid. I'd rather just defer to Elections Canada's judgement and handling of the issue, rather than election results being contested at court and overturned whenever the results are close, forcing by-elections.
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« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2012, 09:28:55 AM »
« Edited: May 21, 2012, 09:36:11 AM by Holmes »

Criticizing the oil sands'  environmental and economic effects on the rest of the country is sacrilege, yes. They are what saved our country from economic doom and are our future. We are the past.
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« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2012, 05:53:02 PM »



I do believe what's keeping the Tories afloat is their support in Alberta and the prairies.
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« Reply #45 on: June 09, 2012, 05:32:43 PM »

Harper really needs it. It'll be nice to see some losers being replaced with soon-to-be losers.
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« Reply #46 on: June 09, 2012, 10:41:01 PM »

Hell, Bev Oda just needs to be fired. What an embarrassment.

He can always... entice her to resign.
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« Reply #47 on: June 10, 2012, 03:08:49 PM »

I knew everything cost more in Nunavut, but some of these prices are really shocking: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/08/nunavut-food-hunger-protest_n_1581485.html#s=more231471

$82 for a 12 pack of Ginger Ale (355mL cans)!

It may sound heartless, but no one is forcing them to live there.

If that's your response to income inequality, hunger and high food prices in the northern territories, then you wouldn't make a good social democrat. But I'm sure you already knew that. Smiley
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« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2012, 12:19:00 PM »

God. If I had a choice between listening to Dad's self-righteous scolding or putting a bullet in my mouth...

A snap election would be horrible.
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« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2012, 12:53:50 PM »

Well, no. I don't think that would happen. I'm thinking more along the lines of the type of candidates a snap election would produce. Recruitment would be rushed, which could be a bad thing if another party won gouvernment.
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