Canada General Discussion

[Hatman 🍁]

Tory MPs have been told in caucus that they'll soon have to disclose all spending. Long overdue. Meanwhile Goldring says he'd consider joining the Liberals if he wins the court case but still isn't allowed back in caucus.

lol wut. Because the Liberals are the party of Libertarianism?

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Goldring would get his [INKS] handed to him if he ran as a Liberal.

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The Atlantic Grit surge continues, this time in NB: CRA pegs 41 Liberal, 29 PC, 27 NDP.

Strong numbers for the NB NDP as well. CRA should be releasing their NS poll soon

LOL at those PC numbers.

I'm dreading the NS ones

[Hatman 🍁]

The Atlantic Grit surge continues, this time in NB: CRA pegs 41 Liberal, 29 PC, 27 NDP.

Strong numbers for the NB NDP as well. CRA should be releasing their NS poll soon

LOL at those PC numbers.

I'm dreading the NS ones

If it makes you feel any better, all three parties in NS are self interested parochial outfits anyways

Well, the NDP less so. And they're actually trying to do something about the deficit there, and are willing to become extremely unpopular in doing so. Outside of Ontario and BC, whenever the NDP gets elected is when government actually becomes effective. Not to say the NDP government there has been flawless.

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What the heck is happening in NL

And NS is very disappointing, but to be expected I guess.

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Canadian Soccer Federation is expelling the QSF for their turban ban.

lol. Excellent.

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Quebec will soon legalize assisted suicide with all party support in the Assembly and largely supportive public opinion. Doubtful Ottawa appeals to the Supremes. I'm neither surprised about their initiative nor supportive myself.

Kind of surprised none of the parties are voting against it. I figured CAQ would have a few socons.

Are there really any "socon" parts of Quebec? There are xenophobic parts of Quebec, and there are free market types in the Beauce, but socons?

Speaking of which, what party is more socially conservative CAQ or PLQ? My money is on the PLQ.

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CAQ probably, given their ADQ roots. PLQ's definitely socially liberal.

What about their base? I picture the PLQ base as being more conservative.

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Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

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Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

The PLQ base in Eastern Townships is Anglophones, which are moving elsewhere for the youngs and dying for the olds. Also, French people are moving there, for ski, for the universities in Sherbrooke, for the lakes...

How many Anglos are still there though? Not a majority. I guess if 90% of Anglos vote Liberal there, + the average amount of Franco Liberal voters = win in the Eastern Townships.

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Radio host calls Andrea Horvath a whore.

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Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

The PLQ base in Eastern Townships is Anglophones, which are moving elsewhere for the youngs and dying for the olds. Also, French people are moving there, for ski, for the universities in Sherbrooke, for the lakes...

How many Anglos are still there though? Not a majority. I guess if 90% of Anglos vote Liberal there, + the average amount of Franco Liberal voters = win in the Eastern Townships.

Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

The PLQ base in Eastern Townships is Anglophones, which are moving elsewhere for the youngs and dying for the olds. Also, French people are moving there, for ski, for the universities in Sherbrooke, for the lakes...

How many Anglos are still there though? Not a majority. I guess if 90% of Anglos vote Liberal there, + the average amount of Franco Liberal voters = win in the Eastern Townships.

It's very variable depending where you are there. All Eastern Townships were English majority at a point, I think, through.

Estrie (the administration region of Eastern Townships, except Brome-Missisquoi and Haute-Yamaska MRCs): 7.6%

Cities:
Sherbrooke: 4.9%
Magog: 6.7%
Coaticook: 4.9%
Lac-Mégantic: 1.3%
Windsor: 3.7%

MRC (counties):
Coaticook (South-East): 11.1%
Le Granit (Lac-Mégantic, Far East): 1.6%
Le Haut-Saint-François (Cookshire-Eaton, Est, includes suburbs): 11.4%
Les Sources (Asbestos, North, former mining area): 4.1%
Le Val-Saint-François (Richmond, North-West, includes suburbs): 8.2%
Memphrémagog (Magog, South-West): 16.0%
Brome-Missisquoi: 20.1%
La Haute-Yamaska: 3.9%

Federal ridings:
Brome-Missisquoi: 16.0%
Shefford: 3.5%
Richmond-Arthabaska: 3.3%
Sherbrooke: 3.2%
Mégantic-L'Érable: 1.5%
Compton-Stanstead: 12.2%

So, anglophones declined much there. Most of them are in rural areas, too. In some areas, their weight is not significant.

Another way of looking at it would be English (or non-French) ancestry.

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Hopefully this Ford video thing will bury the stop sign incident </hack>

But what an incredibly non-NDP thing to do.

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Can someone give their opinion on an offline argument I'm having?

Suppose Peter MacKay & Stephen Harper waited until after the 2004 election to initiate merger talks. Would the Liberals have won a majority?

Yes. Agree it would be like 1997. Except, the NDP would have won more seats (in fact, probably more so than in RL)

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I thought Applebaum was supposed to be Montreal's saviour?

So, does this mean he is  no longer mayor?

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Who will be Montreal mayor now? Or will Cowell-Poitras just serve as acting mayor until the Fall?

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There are 1200 troops deploying as we speak alongside numerous air assets. Tory convention was scheduled for Calgary next week, might be rescheduled or moved to another location.

it's funny how you refer to it as "the convention" as if it's the only convention ever

RCMP is seizing the election returns of 9 Tory MPs in the Duffy investigation, and they're also formally investigating Mac Harb.

More polls: Leger's federal pegs LPC 37, CPC 29, NDP 21. 46-26-15-8 in Quebec.

That's baaaaaddd for the NDP.

Those wouldn't be bad numbers if it were 2010

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The Tories are the centrist party in Nova Scotia, correct? (Liberals are the right of centre party?)

It's indicative of the NDP going downhill that an anti-bullying person would run for the Tories instead of the NDP.

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The NDP is soft on bullying? That really seems bizarre to me.

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The NDP is soft on bullying? That really seems bizarre to me.

Soft in the sense of failing to punish offenders. Obviously, they are the loudest of the parties in terms of promoting bullying education in schools etc.

Oh, that makes more sense

This reminds me of one of our right wing city councillor's whose son committed suicide due to bullying.

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Laurent Blanchard becomes mayor of Montreal

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Spoke with a staffer at the fundraiser tonight. We've been doing regional polling. Apparently NDP support has gone down the toilet disproportionately outside of Halifax, but is holding up surprisingly well in Halifax. Some resilience on the NDP's part will help them hold seats in the Halifax suburbs.

That makes a lot of sense, actually. It's the only area where the NDP has won seats federally recently. We saw the NDP do worse in some areas in the last federal election.

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Alexa for leader!

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I'm still hoping the polls are wrong a la BC/AB, but they probably aren't. Also hoping Nova Scotians realize the NDP had to make some tough choices for the better.

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Alexa for leader!

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I'm still hoping the polls are wrong a la BC/AB, but they probably aren't. Also hoping Nova Scotians realize the NDP had to make some tough choices for the better.

Man, she quit that job like 20 years ago .

I've found myself agreeing with the provincial NDP a lot of decisions. There is still a lot of stuff preventing me from voting NDP, but at least Dexter knows that NS has some major structural issues that need resolving... unlike most of my peers

Dexter's government has been quite "Red Tory"-like, which I think any first term NDP government should govern like. (fix previous govt's problems). Unfortunately even that is too extreme for Nova Scotians Successive NDP governments are to slowly implement democratic socialism into the province (I call this the Tommy Douglas model).

As for Alexa, she should try and get the job back. Only person that can save the party at this point, I think. Remember, when she was leader she was the only NDP MLA with no hope of even forming official opposition. Now she would be in a position to be Premier.

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MacKay rumours about what?