Canada General Discussion

[MaxQue]

The Atlantic Grit surge continues, this time in NB: CRA pegs 41 Liberal, 29 PC, 27 NDP.

Strong numbers for the NB NDP as well. CRA should be releasing their NS poll soon

LOL at those PC numbers.

I'm dreading the NS ones

If it makes you feel any better, all three parties in NS are self interested parochial outfits anyways

As I once said, NS NDP is center-center-left, NS Libs are center-center-center and NS PC are center-center-right.

[Hatman 🍁]

The Atlantic Grit surge continues, this time in NB: CRA pegs 41 Liberal, 29 PC, 27 NDP.

Strong numbers for the NB NDP as well. CRA should be releasing their NS poll soon

LOL at those PC numbers.

I'm dreading the NS ones

If it makes you feel any better, all three parties in NS are self interested parochial outfits anyways

Well, the NDP less so. And they're actually trying to do something about the deficit there, and are willing to become extremely unpopular in doing so. Outside of Ontario and BC, whenever the NDP gets elected is when government actually becomes effective. Not to say the NDP government there has been flawless.

[RogueBeaver]

95k net new full-time jobs created, 55 of them youth. EUFTA won't be announced next week, but Harper will meet the Queen.

[RogueBeaver]

Harb could have to repay up to $200k.

[RogueBeaver]

Ivison says Flaherty "almost certainly" isn't running in 2015. Harper's not amused by Flaherty's public campaign to keep his job, but since the rule is retirees get dropped, Flaherty may quit rather than serving out the term as a backbencher. Oliver thinks the shuffle might be later rather than sooner, but he's the standout. Harper did his last mini-shuffle in July, and the new ministers will need a couple of months to learn their portfolios. So I'm guessing mid-late July. If Flaherty leaves Finance, I'd peg Clement as his replacement.

[DC Al Fine]

Ivison says Flaherty "almost certainly" isn't running in 2015. Harper's not amused by Flaherty's public campaign to keep his job, but since the rule is retirees get dropped, Flaherty may quit rather than serving out the term as a backbencher. Oliver thinks the shuffle might be later rather than sooner, but he's the standout. Harper did his last mini-shuffle in July, and the new ministers will need a couple of months to learn their portfolios. So I'm guessing mid-late July. If Flaherty leaves Finance, I'd peg Clement as his replacement.

It'll be strange not having Flaherty at finance. Is there anyone else from the original cabinet still in their old portfolio?

[RogueBeaver]

LeBreton's the only other one.

[RogueBeaver]

From the same Scrum: O'Connor is a martinet and Van Loan is the most reviled member of caucus. Neither particularly surprising IMO.

[RogueBeaver]

Here's the NS poll we've been waiting for: Grits 45, NDP/PC 26. Meanwhile in NL the Tories have slumped into a distant third at 27, with Dippers at 37 and Grits at 36. Dunderdale tied with Marois at 2-1 disapproval. My own post-BC assumption is that regardless of polls, provincial incumbents win unless the votes say otherwise.

[Hatman 🍁]

What the heck is happening in NL

And NS is very disappointing, but to be expected I guess.

[RogueBeaver]

Ivison follows up on yesterday's QP by suggesting that backbench discontent could be soothed by moving Van Loan and O'Connor. I agree 100%, question is who'd replace them. Said people have to be firm yet understanding, among other things. I can think of people who are too firm and people who are too soft.

Budget has been passed.

[DC Al Fine]

My guesstimate of the NS #'s

Liberal: 31
NDP: 13
PC: 7

The Liberals sweep the province. The NDP maintains their urban Halifax stronghold but loses the suburbs. The Tories are scattered across the province, with a notable stronghold in Cumberland County.

[RogueBeaver]

Canadian Soccer Federation is expelling the QSF for their turban ban.

[RogueBeaver]

Scheer will wait for the courts to sort out Glover and Bezan's expenses before ruling.

[Hatman 🍁]

Canadian Soccer Federation is expelling the QSF for their turban ban.

lol. Excellent.

[RogueBeaver]

Quebec will soon legalize assisted suicide with all party support in the Assembly and largely supportive public opinion. Doubtful Ottawa appeals to the Supremes. I'm neither surprised about their initiative nor supportive myself.

[DC Al Fine]

Quebec will soon legalize assisted suicide with all party support in the Assembly and largely supportive public opinion. Doubtful Ottawa appeals to the Supremes. I'm neither surprised about their initiative nor supportive myself.

Kind of surprised none of the parties are voting against it. I figured CAQ would have a few socons.

[RogueBeaver]

Tkachuk is resigning as IE chair due to cancer, but he'll remain a committee member.  Sen. Gerald Comeau is the likely next chair.

DC: You shouldn't be.

As a side note, I like that CPAC now lets you hear both French and the voiceover rather than just voiceover as it used to be.

[Hatman 🍁]

Quebec will soon legalize assisted suicide with all party support in the Assembly and largely supportive public opinion. Doubtful Ottawa appeals to the Supremes. I'm neither surprised about their initiative nor supportive myself.

Kind of surprised none of the parties are voting against it. I figured CAQ would have a few socons.

Are there really any "socon" parts of Quebec? There are xenophobic parts of Quebec, and there are free market types in the Beauce, but socons?

Speaking of which, what party is more socially conservative CAQ or PLQ? My money is on the PLQ.

[RogueBeaver]

CAQ probably, given their ADQ roots. PLQ's definitely socially liberal.

On another subject, TSB's VIA 92 report is out.

[Hatman 🍁]

CAQ probably, given their ADQ roots. PLQ's definitely socially liberal.

What about their base? I picture the PLQ base as being more conservative.

[RogueBeaver]

I don't think so- PLQ base is non-Francophones and a small chunk of Francophones. If you asked them about euthanasia, abortion, capital punishment, guns, etc., doubt you'd be much surprised at their answers.

[DC Al Fine]

CAQ probably, given their ADQ roots. PLQ's definitely socially liberal.

What about their base? I picture the PLQ base as being more conservative.

PLQ base is Anglos (who tend to be wealthier) & upper middle class francophones. Those people seem more like Jon Huntsman than Mike Huckabee. CAQ has more of a rural conservative vibe going on.

I suppose social conservatism in Quebec died with Dupleissis.

[Hatman 🍁]

Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

[Hash]

Liberal-voting allophones/immigrants might also tend to be quite/very socially conservative, particularly Italian Catholics, Arabs or Haitians (Catholics). But they're very rarely vocal about that kind of stuff so they're not really noteworthy.

And obviously the Orthodox Jews would be very socially conservative.